Problematic White Guy Tier List

All right, let's get to the let's get to the main show. This is the problematic white guy tier list. So, to be on this list, you have to be a white person that I am somehow connected to. Whether it be because we have actually done content together, because I've done content about you, because I've come to know you outside of content, or because I'm highly aware of your presence within the general scope of things, and some [ __ ] don't like you. [laughter] NOW, I MAY STILL HAVE I MAY STILL [ __ ] WITH YOU, BUT I I HAVE to acknowledge that it's some [ __ ] that DON'T TRUST YOU. IP PATCHWOLF IS NOT ON THE list just because that's my that's my boy and I refuse to. I patch Wolf is above all. He's he is above this this this spot. I wouldn't dain to compare the king of the Irish to any other white. Okay, he is unrankable. Only people I think that don't like eye patchwolf are just shitty people. So like there's nothing to even engage with. Right. Here's the point of this video. We have a really lazy analysis on white dudes. And I get it. I get it. I GET WHY. THAT'S WHY I MADE THAT CHARLIE Kirk video is one of the reason why I'm making a whiteness video um that I'm going to try to have exclusive to Nebula when I made that talking to white people thing. It's because we've allowed the Dr. Umarification of white people. It makes it so it's too easy for white folks with certain skill sets and certain presentations to sneak in and for us not to know what useful allies look like. Does that make sense? Oh, yeah. Give me some some people to ask. So, Professor Sky is a good one. Who am I missing while I'm here? Who am I missing? Uh, Bill Maher, that's a good one. Dean Withers is a good one. I have a irrational dislike of Dean. I have to just be real. It's not I don't think Dean is that bad, but I just cannot stand him for reasons I'm I I don't feel righteous about. Already got Hassan on there. Louis CK, cuz y'all are naming a lot of people I don't have a a real opinions on or or interested. We should have Joe Rogan on there. And I'm going to tell you why I'm putting Joe Rogan on there. Rogan represents the the outer limit of the point of this uh M. Jones. All right. Wait, I will put M. Jones on there. [laughter] All right. All right. That's it. That's it. I can't put no more. I can't put no more. We got a lot of good candidates. Thank you, chat. Thank you, chat. SOMEBODY SAID YOU GOT TO PUT A TRUE PROBLEMATIC figure on here. I think all of these people will except for Dan Olsson. I don't think Let's start with Dan. Let's start with Dan Olsen because I think of all the people on the list, Dan has no real controversial anything. We have cryptofascist. And let's just start by putting Joe Rogan there. CRYPTOFASCIST MEANS YOU MIGHT HAVE PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY to say that you're not a fascist or racist. Let me see what you're doing. Top 10 WHITE PEOPLE. OH MY GOD. OKAY, RK, THANK YOU FOR GIVING me the title to this video. [laughter] You know, I'm I'mma rename that. The new title for this one is not racist according to white people. That's the best way to put it. Not racist according to white people. All right, so let's keep going. Let's start with my boy Fant. So Fant, I I love Fant to death. Me and Fant text a lot. Fant is of the white folks I know. And this is what makes it hard. He is one of the most self-aware, carefully moving white folks in anywhere around black folks business. Does that make sense? And that actually is part of what makes it difficult for him because one, let's be real, Fant has a sketchy past. Fantano, like a lot of white folks, like out of all these white people who is not racist when they were 15. Is anybody on this list probably not? Professor Sky. Professor Sky wasn't racist when he was 15. That might be it. 99.9% of white people are racist up up until the age of 15 and then it only goes down by like 5% every year after that. I'M I'M TRYING TO THINK IS ANYBODY ELSE ON this list probably not racist when they were 15. Bernie. Okay, I'll give Bernie that. I think Bernie probably wasn't like Where is Bernie and Norm Flestein? How are him AND NORM FLESTEIN? OH, I GOT A COUPLE PEOPLE MISSING. WHERE'S JOHN BROWN? Somehow Bernie, John Brown, and Norm Finkelstein weren't on the list, but they're THERE NOW. SO, ASIDE FROM BERNIE SANDERS, JESUS, and Professor Sky, every white person on this list was racist as hell at 15. All of them. And I say that to all of them with love, cuz I know. Listen, I I just know you ain't got to lie to me. Don't Don't take it personal. This is just the nature of whiteness. Whiteness's only reason to exist is racism, right? You think white Jesus was racist at 15? He might have been. You right. White Jesus probably was racist at 15. I'll give you that. Maybe not Timothy Shalamé. It seems like Timothy Shalomé seems like he was he was around a lot of black people all of a sudden when he was a teenager. He was doing the Soulja Boy dance. Clearly, he was he was trying to do do a lot more. So, we'll see. ANYWAY, I SAY I HAVE TO SAY Fant of of all the folks I [ __ ] with has persistently engaged with any criticism from his past. You know what I'm saying? When I said that you need to be ready to apologize every time somebody brings up some [ __ ] you were a part of in the past, I was thinking about Fant because although Fant's been dope for years now, Fant understands he was he was running with some iffy sketchy figures at at a certain point in time. And so he's like, >> "Yeah, my bad." >> They brought it up again 6 months later. >> Hey, I see y'all harness again. My bad. >> 18 months after that. >> Oh, y'all found that again. Yeah, my bad. and then he keeps it moving. AND I DON'T THINK Y'ALL APPRECIATE THAT. NOW, you can have issues with Fant's music tastes. You can have issues with Fant's general presence in hip-hop media, you know, which which he doesn't fully control, but overall, you you can't really take a lot of issue with anything Fant does from a like a a specific material level. Yeah, Forest made a a hit piece calling HIM A NAZI. THAT HAPPENS TO FANT because Fant has skeletons. And and mind you, here's the funniest thing. If you go and you look at Fant's earlier content, it ain't nothing compared to some of these other [ __ ] that they that have recouped. It ain't nothing compared to some of these other [ __ ] like at all. [laughter] And right, somebody mentioned DJ Vlad and that's and THAT'S KIND OF MY THAT'S EXACTLY why I I find this interesting enough to talk about. So, we'll have Fant and Fant will get flack and will apologize, but then you got DJ Vlad, Adam22, what's the British [ __ ] we all hate? so much. What's that dude? Trap Laura Ross. You have other white creators in the hip-hop space that are actively still incredibly harmful that get basically no pressure over it. None. So, y'all not about to [ __ ] with my boy Fant until we change the standard on that. All right. Deep cut. The original idea about this video came during Hassan's dog [ __ ] In fact, let me just get all of them up here. Let me get all of them up here real quick. Oh, I'm missing one. I know who I'm missing, too. And I I almost don't even want to put it on the screen. I got to get him on the screen, you know, but it is what it is. So, I guess we'll start with Hassan and as I get to this category. So, Hassan is up there with Fant. We'll associate with publicly. Obviously, Hassan and Fant are similar. I don't actually don't think Hassan had like hardcore racist activity at 15. Partly just because he wasn't even in America. Hassan is he is the least ethnically white, the most psychologically white. And I think that's Hassan's biggest challenge. Now, I say this publicly because I've also told him this privately that Hassan's biggest problem is his ego and the amount of negative attention he gets makes for a volatile combination. Let me put the disclaimers out early. Hassan is a real [ __ ] I don't talk about it publicly because he wouldn't want to. But Hassan has done so many good things for a variety of real life political action situations that he does not talk about. Legit, I just leave it at that. Y'all never going to get me to dislike Hassan based off content because I've engaged with Hassan on real [ __ ] on numerous occasions and he puts his money where his mouth is. He comes through in a way that I don't expect and I know a lot of white creators and I love a lot of them. I would call Hassan first. And on top of that, the irony of the uh the black radical moment he had, the irony of the real bad look he had about a month ago is that none of these white creators have read a lick of black political anything. Anything. That's the main problem with the on with the white online left right now is that they've all read MarkX. They've all read Hegel. They've all read insert white bearded guy here. Pretty much none of them have read Doce. Have read Fenan. Like basic 101 black figures in leftist theory. Hassan has to a degree that if you actually go and you examine Hassan's takes when he gets into black people business from political standpoint as bad as it sometimes gets and I have had issues with Han's takes at times. I also recognize where he's gotten certain [ __ ] from. U Morris Moon says a lot of these white leftists are allergic to black intellectuals. They think it's all derivative of marks and that's just so untrue. I'm not saying he's the only one, mind you. I'm not saying he's the only one. I'm saying at his level, he's the only one. And I remember when I first realized, I WAS LIKE, "OH, this this [ __ ] know a little bit." Now, the problem is Hassan streams 10 hours a day, six, seven days a week. And I've again told him this personally, you cannot be a normal, sensible person doing this that much. I am slowly going crazy right now. >> Damn. Did I do six, seven again? [ __ ] I've only been on for like two hours. And in that eight, nine hours of streaming he does, four or five of those hours are just people telling Hassan how much they hate him and and him responding to that in real time. Nerd with the promise uh promise. Hassan's biggest issue is the nature of the platform and encourages those moments where he pops off at the wrong person because it's generally hard to differentiate from weirdos and sincer. But he can do a lot more that is honestly hard to pack in this message. Yeah, he engages with hate too much. And I do think that a lot of that is ego-based. When you have as big a platform as you have, when you do have a a strong set of very fervent fans, it's hard to remain balanced. And so Hassan actively chooses to put himself in that position. And that position will inevitably once every three months make Hassan do something that looks ass. That's my Hassan take for for future reference. Um, Hassan is not perfect. Hassan is not the extent of what they left should be. Hassan's politics I probably am 90% aligned with and that other 10% does annoy me sometimes, but I'm sure you can say the same thing about him. If he would just find the spirit to pull back from this machine more, he would probably be more effective. Let's get to the man that has moved up this list more than anyone that I'm almost scared to talk about. [laughter] This is Westside Tyler. Westside Tyler. I found him a minute ago. I found him early cuz I was like, "Oh, this is new Vosch." I said in my head, >> you're going to be the new Vosch. >> He did a really good Charlie Kirk video. He did a really good mouthwashing video. But more than anything, he's been a streamer debate bro type. And I'm going just keep it real. Westside Tyler is probably the least hinged person on this list in real life. [laughter] This man is not safe. Where would I be finding these people? YouTube feeds them to me. YOUTUBE KNOWS I LIKE I LIKE TO EXPLORE THE OUTER EDGES. WHAT'S THAT? TYLER'S EX-MILITARY. He's real ex-military. He's He's got some Destiny vibes. He's got some Vosch vibes. He hates both of them. He hates Assan. He will hate somebody you like to hear him hate. So, first off, overall I Wow, he has a scary sketchy past on that military stuff. And he said some things I've heard. I haven't heard them firsthand. He was on Noah's stream at some point and he was like I don't know what he said or did but everybody was was was off him after that and I think it's probably because how he talks about his military experience but I honestly don't know of all the people on this list I'm going to tell you one of the main reasons why I like Tyler off rip. Everybody else on this list existed online first. I don't think he's another platner. I don't think I don't think Tyler's on some platiner [ __ ] That mouthwashing video is really good. Tyler existed in the real world before he existed online. And you can tell. I don't know if that makes sense, but that's the best way I could put it. He lived a real life, did some [ __ ] in the military that he's not proud of, but he still talks about like it's some [ __ ] he did, got married, did journalism. I don't know if grounded cuz he's he's legitimately insane in his stream sometimes. Legitimately, I'm watching his stream and he will go off on a tangent about his rabbits. Everybody, here's here's what it is. All these other white bread tube types, these white lefty live types, they talk about racism as if they've never been a part of that. As if the idea of racist and racism is just so far from where they've existed THEIR ENTIRE LIVES. HE'S NOT TALKING ABOUT HIS own racist past, but he understands that psyche wave and explains it way better than any other person on this list in my opinion. I I THINK YEAH, I THINK TYLER IS MORE HONEST. THAT MIGHT BE what it is. Yes, Yash Park. I think I believe Tyler when he talks more than any other white person on this list for the most part around these things. And that's why I always circle back to see what his perspective is on a given thing. Cuz when I hear Tyler when I hear Tyler break down like white supremacy and racism and and general [ __ ] with with white people, I'm like, "Yeah, that makes sense." The problem is I know I'm gonna look far enough on one of his videos and he's gonna talk about shooting people in Iraq in a way that I'm like [clears throat] >> Tyler. >> Also, he has like an irrational hatred of like Hassan that I just, you know, he was part he was part of the dog the dog shock community which I'm just like I all he on with the dog shock stuff get on my nerves. He he's a wild boy. He is not for everyone. I personally would much rather get really good analysis than really safe allyship from YouTube. All right. Soy pill. Soy pill. Yeah, I gotta put soy pill. I gotta put soy pill here, but I'll put him above Tyler. How do I explain soy pill? Soy pill is another debate, bro. Soy pill is Bernie bro that actually learned something from that experience. Does that make sense? Is ideal standard white liberal. SO THERE'S TWO TYPES of Bernie Bros. There's Vosch and then there's soy pill. So there's Bernie Bros who haven't learned anything and think that anybody that took issue with Bernie Sanders is wrong and just is staying in that same spot waiting for everyone to come affirm their democratic socialist god. And then there's Bernie Bros that were like >> Bernie lost twice. Why is that? >> That that's Soy Pill. Soy Pill does edgy white boy humor. So that's always a mixed bag. Sometimes it's funny and he does debate bro stuff, but of all the of all the debate bros left in the game that still do debates, he he's at the top of my he's at the top of the food chain for me. And on the opposite end is Bad and Panata. Like what's the safest way to get into Bad and Panata? Is there no way I should I just keep it a buck? I I I describe Bad and Panata as the id of Left Tube. He used to make fundamentally useful, informative content and now mostly he just makes drama slop. All right, PF Young. PF Young, as much as I tend to like his content, PF Young is sus, I do not know what to think about PF Young 75% of the time. the haircut alone. PF Young is either the most skillful neo-Nazi ever or he is the key to figuring out how to engage with normal WHITE PEOPLE. HIS SATIRE is so is there so many levels deep in his satire around political stuff that I'm like, >> is this just racist? >> Me and PF Young had a conversation. And this the last one we had cuz I was like I don't know if I could do keep doing this where we're talking about uh black fatigue [ __ ] and anti-white racism and he's arguing the concept of anti-white racism and I'm not really debating him. I'm just trying to be like so where does this come from? Because of the nature of a lot of race scholarship we don't really be paying attention to like the white psyche like that. Like we oversimplify racism and white supremacy to a point where it makes it hard for us to even be able to effectively explain and analyze it. We flatten it in a way that actually lets them get away with [ __ ] And so I always seek out since I was since I was young enough to understand racism, I've always tried to seek it out from its source. Not when it confronts me. I go to confront it. And we do need a And so Bellamy, we need a white person to set this [ __ ] because they got a perspective that we don't. That's again that's that's Westside Tyler. And so I like Young because Young really understands racism. Maybe a little too much, [laughter] but there's a there there that I'm always paying attention to. Tabernacle, I'll put him above I'll put him above soy pill. So what if Bad Impanada was less unhinged? Like Kevin Hackle also makes a lot of drama content but still makes just STRAIGHT UP LIKE IF I WANT TO know what if I want to know what the online left is mad about this week I watch Tabernacle but Tabernacle still also does a lot of beating up on nebula people which again I I just I don't know the old bread tube I don't know maybe it's cuz I wasn't here like that for old bread tube or maybe it's because I I started almost immediately as I became relevant reading black leftist stuff I find beating beating up on Contra Points of Philosophy 2 and H Bomber Guy to be really dumb. I I get being critical of Contra Points because like Contra Points makes her presence more known when she has bad takes. So, I get that overall, but it's also very parasocial to me, especially if that's not what your content is actively about. Let's get to Bo Burnham. Where we putting Bo Burnham? Is there any reason to dislike Bo Burnham past the time he was like 17 years old? Bo Burnham is the reason why I'm here. He's one of the reasons why I'm here. Albino Unicorn, he's Hollywood, so from a distance. [laughter] Bo Burnham saying the FBI killed Martin Luther King was the first time millions of white people heard that. Do y'all realize that? Oh, hell yeah. White people don't know the FBI killed Martin Luther King. All right. Hank Green. Every it feel LIKE EVERY MONTH I HEAR PEOPLE are trying to cancel Hayton Green. Some about Taylor Swift. Hank was iffy about Gaza. Liberal Zionist. Ah, really? Has Hank said anything about what's happening in the Palestine of Gaza? If I have to go to threads or Twitter to find out, then I'm definitely not doing it. I'm definitely not taking it seriously. He's a outspoken Zionist. I n I'd have seen that. Hank Green is who Ezra Klein thinks he is. That sounds That still sounds bad. I don't know. I think Hank is just the one good lib. And it's it's hard being the one good lib in 2025. It's not good enough. All right. Noah Samson. Noah Samson is is my baby. I hope he's okay cuz I ain't heard from Noah in a second. I need to I need to hit him up or hit up uh let me hit up foreign man. I know him and foreign man talk regularly. He's probably out there doing work. Yeah, that makes sense. I don't have a single complaint about Noah. You know what? I'M TRIPPING. NOAH GETS A PLAY. Noah gets a play. The only PROBLEM WITH NOAH IS that Noah's not really white. And that there it is. [laughter] Noah's Noah's only aesthetically and psychologically white, but Noah's actually part Tai, and I think that tie part is doing a lot of work. I love Noah because although like I hope Noah's doing well and and Noah, you know, has left the the online sphere, which I think is probably good for him cuz he wasn't feeling it. Um, but the thing I love about Noah is kind of like something I said about Fant is that Noah just is trying to do the right thing and is not super interested in being right. I think I said it in some video. Do people want to be right or do they want to be correct? And like Noah's always been about that. And the fact that Noah like Noah could very easily be just making money left and right making, you know, commentary e boy videos. Noah never liked that. I was admired that Noah has changed his channel completely cover into completely covering what's happening in Gaza. So I have nothing but respect for Noah on that on that regard. In fact, we got to put Noah above Dan Olsen. I love you, Dan. We got to put uh we got to put Noah above you. Uh Adam from YNS. So I don't know about Canadians immediately sus. So politically I don't I think Adam again is like a normie liberal. Adam I'm sure has some spicy takes but Adam is part of a couple of people on here that's like the father. You know how I would put her on here, but I I feel I wanted to be white male centered, but like it's Adam, Lindsay Ellis, Nostalgia Critic, Red Letter Media are the the forefathers of the whole video essay game. And so he makes dope videos about movies. You know what I mean? All right, Shane Gillis. Where do we put Shane Gillis? Is Shane Gillis sus? We going to observe Shane Gillis from a distance cuz here's the thing. This This is the This is the interesting complex thing about white guys, right? So, I'm going to compare Shane Gillis real quick to Professor Sky. Shane Gillis. I'm put them on I'm going just put them. They're not going to the cookout. Spoiler alert. Nobody's invited to the cookout. You should have [ __ ] KNOWN THAT. NOT EVEN JOHN BROWN. I GOT SOME SMOKE FOR JOHN BROWN. SO, Professor Sky is I think what most white people imagine they're doing when they say they're being an ally. So, although I'm sure Professor Sky has some L's, he made a Charlie Kirk video that I understood, but it was the wrong time to make that video. Um, he was just trying to get to the humanity of it all, which I get, but it it wasn't a time for it. Whenever I see Professor Sky, he's given a good take and he's surrounded by good people. And the the most questionable white person Professor Sky is associated with is Anthony Vantano. He wasn't doing Ezra Klein [ __ ] Don't do that to Professor Scott. Nah, he wasn't doing Ezra Klein [ __ ] It wasn't that bad. And I AND I BRING THIS UP BECAUSE IT'S important who you There's So Shane Gillis to me is similar to, you know, uh, Hassan in that I actually think Shane Gillis has good views on things in general. However, he's way too comfortable with clearly problematic white people. I can see I CAN HEAR A white guy talk and I can know to my I I can say in my head, okay, I kind of know where this dude this dude's needles point. And I'm like, all right, I can associate with you. I can [ __ ] with you. I can build with you. Like in, you know, levels to that [ __ ] But one of the things that I noticed is that white guys, even with good politics, will be way too comfortable around white guys that are not wast racist to white people. If you haven't said slurs recently, then to a white person, >> oh, you're not racist. Cool. >> And yes, I gotta admit it, that's also Hassan's problem. Hassan should have never had a show with Ethan Klein ever. Ever. All right. Nigathy Shamlet. What are we doing with Nikki Shamlet? Are we observing him from a distance? Does he at least get to be over over Bad and Panata? Where did Nikki Shamlet come from? YEAH, SWAG. I DON'T LIKE THE SWAGGED OUT WHITE BOY THING. NOT A FAN. He said broke out in a PG Lang ad and said, "Okay, personality shift time." So the the the deep lore from what I understand is that he's actually always been like this, which is really interesting, right? It's really interesting. It's like, again, this is my this is my constant fascination with the existence of whiteness. Timothy Shamlet Shamallay, am I saying his name right? Shamlet, from what I understand, was always a wigger. And they have the video evidence to prove it. He has old videos of him rapping and doing the Soulja Boy dance. And I know that white boy. I know THAT WHITE BOY. QUIET AS IT'S KEPT, I DO NOT care and I have no energy for being for taking issue with white boys that like hip-hop. I find that to be so tiresome. That [ __ ] is so boring. And [ __ ] be thinking they cooking with that [ __ ] >> This white boy likes rap music and I think that's bad. And it's like, all right, [ __ ] Like, don't get me wrong, there's a criticism to have around the white influence on hip hop. The issue isn't with Timothy Sha. [ __ ] The issue isn't with Timothy Shalamé. Shamallay. The issue isn't with Timothy Shamallay. Damn. The issue isn't with Timothy Shalamé. The issue is with white supremacy in general and how that affects everything. And if you can only point that out in hiphop, I guess I'm just kind of annoyed that you stopped there. [ __ ] kept asking me about Jack Harlo a couple years ago. I was so [ __ ] annoyed cuz it's like Jack Harlo's is was so mid. The irony is that his whiteness made him a superstar. both because that's what whiteness does to medioc mediocre rappers, but also because [ __ ] was so hyperfocused on pointing to Jack Carlo and saying this is bad for hip hop that like they couldn't pay attention to a Denzel Curry uh album. All right, White Jesus is White Jesus down here with Joe Rogan. Is White Jesus worse than Joe Rogan? AI white Jesus I'mma say is better than Joe Rogan. White Jesus only exists for the purpose of white supremacy. [laughter] So I feel like the fact that HE HASN'T COME BACK to correct that [ __ ] has to make him racist. You know what I'm saying? All right. Red Letter Media. I don't think YouTube the YouTube video essay exists without Red Letter Media. Now, I don't know them dudes at all. And they have Red Letter Media are the most I don't know any black people [ __ ] I've ever seen on YouTube. They don't know no [ __ ] It's so obvious. [laughter] They might have been the reason I made the back Black Panther video cuz I like their content, but their review of Black Panther was so devoid of understanding any of the black anything in the movie that I was like, "Oh my god." And I didn't even think it was like on some racist [ __ ] It was just they had absolutely no clue what to say. All right, Louis CK. Louis CK was my favorite comedian for years, more than Dave, more than anybody. I loved Louis CK. He was so damn funny. As a aging man that was having children, cuz I discovered Louis CK right when I was having kids and like was trying to figure out this next stage of adulthood. and his comedy had such a great perspective on like the horrors of aging and becoming not yourself anymore. Amazing at crafting jokes. The last thing I saw from him wasn't very funny. His postcancellation special was not funny. It was probably worse than Dave's post cancellation stuff. Is he doing the right I know he's not doing the right-wing circuit. He's not doing the right-wing circuit. Fox Freeman. This is This is dope. Louis EK [ __ ] right here. You're not raising the kid. You're raising the adults they're going to be. That was the type of [ __ ] Louis CK was putting on record before the weird sex stuff. Andrew Scholes. Is Andrew Scholes better than White Jesus? Cuz he's worse than Sus. He's not as bad as Rogan, but he's worse than White Jesus. Andrew Scholes is only here because of Charlemagne the God. Do y'all realize that shows has done the whitest thing possible, which is come up under someone black, pivot to a white audience base, get bigger than the black person that brought them there, and then start being low-key racist. Andrew Scholes was just a comedian, and he would do Guy Code, Charlemagne the God. That was his show on MTV2 back when that was a thing. I'm showing my age. Charlemagne had no white associates for years. And Charlemagne presented Scholes as this sensible, you know, kind of down white boy. And I think at the time he might have had a black wife. Then Scholes used to have a black wife mix. Whatever. His wife is biracial. I Y'all know I don't do the biracial thing. Does his wife look black? If the police were looking for his wife, would they say this is a black woman? We're looking for a black woman. If they were, then she black. Then again, she dated Andrew Scholes, so Oh, she didn't look black. [laughter] So like where did he find like so when Scholes starts being a Trump guy? What did that look like to Charlemagne? Like what did that look like to him? When he starts hearing Andrew Soul say, "I'm voting for Donald Trump." What does that conversation sound like? YEAH, THEY STILL HAVE A POD TOGETHER. BUT NO, LIKE ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I WAS A CHARLEMAGNE APOLOGIST IS CHARLEMAGNE is one of the first straight black man to platform black trans women and not in a super exploitative shitty way. He was he was probably one of the first, if not the first black straight black man with a major platform to consistently platform black trans women. And though I'm sure he probably had some goofy edgy jokes, he definitely platformed them in a way that they really just they still don't get outside of their spaces. Um, what's the what's the girl from Orange is New Black? CHARLAMAGNE'S NOT THE typical misogynist though, Wanisha. Like it's he's he's more like that quiet misogyny we were doing early. Leverne Cox, thank you. Like I've I've often made the comment that if the worst [ __ ] in the world had the politics of Charlemagne, the world would be in a much better place. That doesn't give him a pass on all his other [ __ ] But that's kind of why I was like maybe there's value in where he's at. I SO I DON'T THINK HE WAS EVER ON some the trans stuff is too woke [ __ ] LIKE SCHULZ THAT AND THAT'S KIND OF THE THING THAT'S SO FASCINATING TO me like when Scho starts saying the trans thing is getting too woke. What is Charlemagne the first black man to to platform trans women think when he says that? I'm so curious as to how that conversation went. All right. Adam Conover. I like him A LOT. I LIKE HIM SO MUCH. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY Are there any complaints? Did he do a Did he do a Zionism that I don't know about, too? Like, Adams Ruins Everything is is is iconic. Iconic pedantic know-it-all nerd moment. And I just refuse to allow anybody to disrespect that. Adam Connor, holl at me. I I I'll come on the pod or whatever. Right. I really hate Dean Withers. I hate him so much. He is the most punchable liberal in the world. And he's not bad. I WANT TO BE CLEAR. I HATE HIM, but he's not bad. Does that make sense? He's just making lefty brain rot slop content. No, he doesn't get a plate cuz I punch him in the face for no reason. I have no reason to hate him as much AS I DO, BUT I might slap the [ __ ] out of him if I see him IN REAL LIFE. ALL RIGHT. CM PUNK. Oh my god. CM Punk. I got to put CM Punk at res at at THERE'S A POINT IN TIME WHERE I WOULD have brought CM Punk a plate. But CM Punk is the epitome of live long enough to become THE VILLAIN. CM PUNK IS A LOT LIKE HE'S LIKE wrestling Bill Burr. Maybe I should put Okay, to be fair, I'll put CM Punk above Bill Burr. Punk started out like he was he was a punk. Like real punk. low-key anarchist type vibes. Said some real [ __ ] every once in a while. He's definitely a left. He's definitely left coded leftwing overall. Probably more of a lib. But yeah, somebody said it. CM Punk will tweet free Palestine on a plane to Saudi Arabia to do a WWE show. And so it's just frustrating. Who we got left? Bill Maher. I think Bill Maher is worse than Joe Rogan. Am I tripping? Is Bill Maher worse than Joe Rogan? I think he is. I think Bill Maher is worse than Joe Rogan because at least Joe Rogan is kind OF ANTI- GENOCIDE. THEY HAVE THE SAME TAKES. HE MIGHT be a lot worse than Joe Rogan. Real talk. Joe Rogan knows he's not really a progressive. Joe Rogan is a centrist. He's a normal guy. Whereas Bill Maher imagines himself a progressive. He imagines himself a a liberal and a evolved guy despite the fact that he is a misogynist, an Islamophobe, a Zionist. You know what I'm saying? M Jones. M Jones is very sus. Did I made a video about M. Jones, a white boy named Mccoral from Alabama. No way. No way. Punching [ __ ] in the dick. Nick Bosa on there too. Him and Nick Bosa. That whole crew. He has at least two incidents of hitting [ __ ] in the dick in on the field. All right. Bernie Sanders. I'll put Bernie at the bottom of of we'll associate publicly. Bernie Sanders. I've already made enough videos. The liberal Zionism of it all. Oo, I might have to drop him for that. Yeah, you right. We got to drop him for the liberal Zionism cuz when when Candace Owens calls it a genocide before you, and now don't get me on no like this is not me giving it to Candace Owens. He He endorsed Graham Platner. Ah yeah, Bernie is everything I've ever said he was. Bernie is everything I ever said he was. I have never not cooked on Bernie Sanders. I've never not had the correct take on this [ __ ] Every time I've talked about Bernie Sanders, I've been 100% right. Both positive and negative. Because I've never said Bernie Sanders was a bad guy. I didn't see the liberal Zionism coming. I didn't know what liberal Zionism was before a couple years ago. I want to be clear. I never like to get too um high and mighty around what's happening in Palestine because that was a topic I was barely aware of before October 7th a couple of years ago. He's not attached to any useful perspective on black anything and he swears that him marching with Martin Luther King in 1965 is all that we ever need to know about him when it comes to race. Normstein I feel like I'm going to put Bo Burnham above Bad and Panata. Norm Finkelestein is Bad and Panata with a PhD. I think I cook with that. If Bad and Panata had a PhD and wrote some books, he'd be Norm Finkelstein. Where at the end of the day, he says a lot of [ __ ] that I'm like, yeah. But he's so spicy and so up his own debate bro ass that every third time he talks he's going to say something where you're like, what are you talking about? Normalstein is a professional edge lord. He's a professional white leftist. All right, John Brown. If anybody should be invited to the cookout, it's John Brown. But there is no cookout. [laughter] There's no cookout there. There are no invites to the cookout. None whatsoever. The cookout is still closed. >> Now, John Brown is the number one white man in history. He is the white He is the white man heavyweight champion of all time. I want to be clear on that. John Brown's crusade and his righteousness and his beliefs were actually to him more important than what he was doing for BLACK PEOPLE. THAT'S LOW-KEY PROBABLY WHY THEY GOT CAUGHT. DON'T GET ME WRONG, murderous slave masters, that's a that's a that's dope. IT'S KIND OF LIKE BATMAN. YOU KNOW HOW YOU SAY if Batman really wanted to stop crime, he would not be beating up um uh mentally ill criminals on the street and he'd be like creating infrastructure in Gotham City. That's kind of my critique of John Brown. This is not to say that John BROWN ISN'T BAD. JOHN BROWN SHOULD HAVE BEEN organizing helping to arm and fund the slave uprising militia. I know. Yeah, I I know Bruce Wayne does do philanthropy or something. I I don't know. I don't know enough about Batman. I don't know if that critique of Batman is all that great. That's just the one I know makes sense. All right. How we feeling about this? How we feeling about this? Anything else we want to change? Do we put Sky above Noah? That's why we we dropped Noah one spot because Sky is really white and Noah is cheating by not being all the way white. Sky is doing real work. Sky is a white GUY FROM BOSTON. SKY IS FIGHTING DEMONS. You know what I'm saying? Noah is cheating a little bit. Noah is a white passing Asian from the West Coast. So, he ain't really had to fight the same demons everybody else is fighting. You know what I'M SAYING? LIKE NOAH DIDN'T GET THE n-word discourse in his household the same way that I'm sure Sky did in his community. So Noah Noah kind of got a head start. He has almost white privilege. Until food gets here, I guess we can play a little Tekken. Oh no, food is here. Nobody's invited to the cookout now. Oh, there is no cookout. I'm about to go eat. I love y'all. Appreciate y'all. Happy New Year's.