Dave Smith | The Dems Are Still A Hot Mess | Part Of The Problem 1362

What's up everyone? Welcome to a brand new episode of Part of the Problem. I am Dave Smith. He is Robbie the Fire Bernstein. How are you feeling today, Rob? >> I'm doing well. How are you my friend? >> Very good. Very good. I can't complain. I'm excited uh to go uh to go back to Pville uh with you this weekend. We had a we had a great time last time we were there, but it's been uh at least I know you've you've been there I think more recently, but I haven't been there in what is it now? Few years. >> I'm excited because I was uh am driving to and from there and their beers are delicious and I usually drink exactly one, but this time I'm staying over and I'm going to have myself a good time. >> Oh yeah. Typically we'd be driving back at the end. Yeah, there you go. Well, I'm I'm gonna have myself a few beers there, too, and then make Mike Harrington be my designated driver and drive me home while I tell him how much I love him for three hours on the ride home. So, Mike, I would tell you how much I love you. I'm so proud of you. Um, oh, we should uh we should mention it here because I did see that they put out the flyer, but also Rob will be on uh Timcast on Thursday night. Um, so Rob's going down to the area a little earlier than me and he's going to go do Timcast. very excited for you to do that show. Your first time on there, so that should be a good one. Make sure you guys check that out. Support Robbie the Fire in all of his endeavors, including Run Your Mouth and uh Portune and all that stuff and his, you know, uh headlining shows on the road and stuff. Um after uh Pville, what do we got? We got the whole weekend in New Jersey coming up the weekend after that. So, come on out to the the dojo of comedy. comicdesmith.com for all those uh ticket links. And of course, my amazing wife's children's book uh is now available in paperback, Healthy Hibernation. You can go get it over at uh at Amazon and um bunch of people have been getting it and we've been getting such positive feedback. It's been very very nice. So, thank you to everybody who's uh purchased a copy. All right, so let's get into some stuff uh today, Rob. It's been uh you know I almost feel um it's almost like a um a bit of a moment I I I've felt like for the last couple days where you're almost like uh it's like we've just been in a deep sea of Epstein files and I kind of feel like I'm coming up to the surface and just taking a breath and almost looking around and going, "Oh, okay. Well, where does this where is everything now reorganized or reshuffled in the political landscape?" Um, I did see I was uh reading um a bit about this earlier uh today, but I saw um the uh there's been a few new polls that have come out that have record low approval ratings for Donald Trump, which is um shocking. I don't know. >> I thought we were in the best economy ever. >> Yes, we're in the golden age of winning or something. Um, here. Let's let's uh start out with the the clip from uh the very reliable news network CNN, who we always side with. >> Some bad news in the polling for President Trump. His approval rating hitting new lows. CNN's Harry Anton is running the numbers on this one for us. Hello, Harry. >> Hello, Kate. >> Where does the president stand? >> Happy Washington's birthday observed today. That's what it is in the state of New York. I'm a New Yorker through and through. Let's take a look at another president, though. President Donald John Trump. Look at this. I got four numbers across for you on this screen here. They are all secondterm lows for the given pollster. What are we talking about? AP North 26 points below water. NBC 22 points below water. Yahoo yugv 20 points below order. Quinnipiac 19 points below water. So we're ranging from 19 points all the way to - 26 points. You know, Kate, there's this question that folks keep asking. You know, where is the floor for Donald Trump? And I'm not sure there is a floor because if there is one, Donald Trump, at least in term number two, has just fallen through it to another low level. >> How does this compare with his first term? And how does this compare with Joe Biden? >> Okay, so we look at these numbers right here. And one of the things that Donald Trump had been arguing, his proponents have been arguing, oh, you know what? He's doing better than he was doing in term number one. No longer is that the case. What are we talking about here? Okay, net approval rating at this point in the term. Look at this. 22 points below water on average when you average all the pollsters from the last night. That is actually lower. That is lower than he was at this point in term number two. Term number one when he was 17 points below water. So he's doing five points worse. Five points worse. And he's doing way worse than Joe Biden was doing at this point in his term number one when he was 13 points below water. So the bottom line is this. Donald Trump is setting new records for himself in term number two. Setting new records for himself compared to where he was at this point in term number one. and he's doing worse than Joe Biden, which is of course the comparison that Donald Trump does not want to be because we all know what happened to Joe Biden. His party lost the house in term number one, that midterm elections and of course Joe Biden was not reelected to another term. At this point, the numbers are no bueno for the president of the United States. >> What's all right? >> I'm I got to say something. >> Sure. I hate that guy. And he sounds like Marco Rubio doing a Donald Trump impersonation. And I've never heard the word more water underwater more times. And uh while uh I guess the reporting is, you know, fake news and so there's really no reason to see what CNN has to say about poll numbers. It's not a bad breakdown. But my god, did that guy annoy me. >> Oh yeah. No, he's brutal. He's really got just a type of like awful gay energy that you don't want at a party with you. Um >> Oh, is that what I was picking up with with the Marco Rubio flavor? >> I don't know. I mean, one way or the other. Um he's gay either literally or figuratively. Um well, look, I mean, as I kind of always preface um with this stuff. First of all, uh I never put too much stock in any of these polls. I do put more stock in the trend lines from the polls. You know what I mean? Like if the same poll jumps up 15 points or down 15 points, that kind of indicates that something's going on there. And look, I also should say I do I think one of the silver linings about where the United States of America is at politically is that presidents are just disliked. Now, now this is very different from like when I was a kid. You would see those numbers in the positive. Now, it's just a matter of how negative your approval rating is. Um, it is it's almost always a minority of the country who supports the current president. But that being said, if you remember, Rob, we did a year ago play a few clips of these same two people at that same two monitor that at that same monitor talking about how Donald Trump had record high approval ratings. And there's really no question that in the last year, Donald Trump's approval ratings have been crashing and it's largely a reflection of his failure as president. I mean, I just think that's kind of obvious. All right, guys. Let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is the Wellness Company. Every workout, injury, or surgery creates microscopic good and bad damage inside the body. Muscle inflammation and tissue breakdown can peak within 72 hours after physical stress. 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All right, let's get back into the show. >> Well, I uh just got myself a new factory job, so I'm uh quite pleased with this administration because after years of hardship, I finally get to clock in >> it. Well, that's right. That's right. All the factory jobs and the uh all the tariffs are and we I think we abolished the income tax. Remember remember when that was a plan? We were going to abolish the income tax because the tariffs were so good. Anyway, um the so one of the things that's been kind of interesting uh over really just the the last couple of days I I've been seeing there's been several viral moments amongst kind of leading Democratic figures and um you know it's like there's something interesting. Okay, Donald Trump is obviously tanking and his administration's a catastrophe and he's losing support as he should. But then you turn around and you look at the state of the Democrats and it really is still such a mess. Like it kind of can't be overstated how much this is like they really just do not have their [ __ ] together. It's still there's still no leader has emerged. the leaders that they have are so enormously flawed and there is this real question where like you know look I mean I think there's no question that the Republicans at least at this point at this rate are going to get creamed in the midterm elections but when you start looking beyond that to like okay then what what is done with that it is still we're in a position where it's very hard to see who kind of takes over as the leader of this party. Um, and so what is the alternative here? Anyway, I mean, like, you know, we're still in the same position where we got you got Gavin Newsome who's somewhat slick as a politician, but has this albatross around his neck of being the governor of California, which is going to be very very difficult to to have that track track record and and do it, you know, win a campaign. And then um you have AOC who's uh Rob, what can you say about her? >> Well, and I've said numerous times she's too stupid to run and uh I think later in the episode we're going to have some clips that showcase that. >> Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, we could do that now if you want to. Uh there's um there's a a couple AOC clips that have been going viral from the last few days and it is you do kind of uh it look she's not quite as bad as Camala Harris but she is really bad at this. She's really that really is the problem with AOC. She's almost the thing about AOC is that it's like I think progressives like the idea of her. Um, and and in many sense, I guess some progressives like the idea of Camala Harris, the idea of the first, you know, black female president or something like that, but it's going to be really hard to actually defend what she says here. Let's Oh, sorry. Go ahead. I think AOC is fine when she's kind of in the lane of talking social justice type issues or hey, we got to do more for the poor, but the second you want to have a more substantial conversation, uh you can see that her knowledge and acumen or ability to express a point of view is pretty thin. And she c she doesn't have the Trump flavor of being able to just go, I don't have to explain this because it's me. I'm super smart. I'm so successful. I'm going to make you successful. She doesn't have that thing. And so her limited trying to explain things that are just over her head, I think immediately comes clear of I would not want to put my faith in this person running the country. >> Yeah. Let's here. Let's go. Uh we got a couple clips of AOC here. Let's uh let's play the first one. Either order it doesn't matter. >> Look at what happened in Venezuela for example. It is not a uh it it is it is not a a remark on who Maduro was as a leader. He canceled elections. He was an anti-democratic leader. That doesn't mean that we can kidnap a head of state and engage in acts of war just because the nation is below the equator. Well, the congresswoman reportedly the thing that >> the thing that people are jumping on her which I think you know is a little bit unfair is that um but I mean Venezuela is not below the equator. That being said, I think like it's it's a that's a gaff that you know people could make. It's she tried to describe it in a you know funny way or whatever. Anyway, it is kind of entertaining that she said below the equator and the country is, you know, above the equator. But, you know, who's going to get hung up on details like that? I thought what was more interesting about this um was and look I don't even know if either of us would really disagree with anything she said there other than the equator part that we might take issue with but uh there is Rob I mean do it like the Democrats are still in this lane where she is where they're doing the fake Hispanic accent when you say a a word like this and I just um I I don't know. I I genuinely I mean I don't mean to be like kind of petty here. I actually think there's something kind of significant to this. I still think if you remember, Rob, I made a lot of this uh last year when Donald Trump's approval ratings first started really dipping. And I thought it was really interesting that his ratings were dipping, but the Democrats weren't rising. is like a bunch of people were turned off by Donald Trump but still not going back to the Democrats because like we're still not doing that [ __ ] again. And I do think there's this thing where essentially that that now look I know you could say that AOC is whatever she is. She's she's part Hispanic or whatever and so she speaks Spanish or something like that. But there is a weird thing that people do. It's this weird progressive virtue signaling where when they say a a word like with that's a Spanish name, they have to break into this thick accent that they just weren't speaking in. Like it's not like you have a a you were just speaking without a thick Spanish accent, but all of a sudden when you say a Spanish word you have to speak and we don't do it for anything else. We don't, nobody is, you know, you would never say like, "Oh, I was I was in London and then I got on the the channel and I went over to France." Like you just No one does that. You know what I mean? Like you just you go London, France, Mexico. Like I I don't know. It's just like no one actually ever goes. So we were out in California and then we uh drove downtown Mexico and sorry that wasn't very good uh anyway. There is something where I think there's like look that whole thing has been so soundly rejected by super majorities of the American people. Like wokeism and all of that. Like that's just one little indication that you're a woke person. This is what progressives do. There's constantly it's constantly like virtue signaling, you know, like signaling that I'm in. I'm the good person who's in this click. And we've all just rejected that [ __ ] because it's ob, you know, it's so awful and stupid and um selfish and and immature. And so it's just I don't know. I mean, I I I don't mean to make too much of a little thing. I actually look at that and I go, I don't think any, you know, I had said last year, I actually in a weird way think she's the front runner just because Nome's got this baggage and she's three clicks to the left of him, which is actually probably closer to where the party base is than he is. But I the more I look at this, I don't think anyone doing that can win in today's America, at least like on a national level. I I don't know. What do you think? Uh, personally my favorite AOC is when she's a room full of uh, Bronx black people and she puts on the black accent. So that that's my personal favorite variation of AOC. Um, but the talking standard perfect English and then switching to Mexican annunciations or Hispanic annunciations is pretty goofy, too. >> Dude, it's so brutal. It's so brutal. Like, do you ever see it? It is in a weird way the same thing. Like you ever see like a like I I had like a few friends who I've seen do this when I was young, but like when they'd they'd start like talking black around black people. >> Yeah, we all kind of do it. Just not on stage in front of cameras when you're giving a speech. >> Yes. Yeah, I guess so. But like No, look, I'm not saying even like a little bit of doing it, but I'm saying like when it's like a dramatic shift and you're there and you're watching and you're like, "Dude, I was just talking to you. I know." like it's I know how you really talk and it's just like cringy and it is something that but it's not a coincidence that uh um and I think this was something that was very appealing about Donald Trump um as a candidate to a lot of people and say whatever you will about Donald Trump. He is authentic in in a very strange way because he's such a strange person. But like Donald Trump is himself. And if Donald Trump goes and speaks to a room, it doesn't matter who's in that audience. He's speaking the exact same way every time. The the progressive Democrats, all of them, dude. All of them. Like I mean Camala Harris, Hillary Clinton, uh Barack Obama, AOC, Gavin Newsome, all of them. Joe Biden was famous for that. I mean, there's the most hilarious compilations of these guys that you can go find where they will straight up just become a different person. Like, they're so phony and full of [ __ ] that they will just speak to a different audience and all of a sudden have a completely different, you know, Hillary Clinton would go and speak at like a church in the South and she'd get up there and she'd she'd literally be like, "Y'all ain't going to try to fool me. None now, is you?" you know, like she usually like, yo, who the [ __ ] is this lady? Like, this is just not at all who you are. They all do that and AOC is very guilty of that, too. Um, and I, you know, I think it's it's going to be interesting. I mean, obviously 2028 is a while away here, but I still think that the the Democrats are have not really like these people have not adjusted to the fact that I don't think that shit's going to work anymore. It's just been too exposed. Uh I I've been doing a running series on uh run your mouth of uh remembering just how dumb the Democrats are and it's incredible because we spend so much time focused on Donald Trump who is ma messing up horrifically and is quite irritating but every time you see you get a little glimpse of a reminder of why we hated the Democrats so much and they have no bench whatsoever. Uh I I think Nuome is the front runner and he has a slickness to him. Uh, and it's probably going to come down to how bad the economy is and how much there's a flavor of throw the bastards out, particularly if it's Ruby or Advance running. And there still is a lot of uh discontent with the way the Trump administration essentially lied to us about getting out of wars and uh cleaning up government spending and even doing deportations and the laundry list of things we've complained about. The Epstein files would be the most recent. Um, but yeah, the Democrats have no bench and every time they still flirt with these ideas that were widely rejected in the last election, you do kind of scratch your head and go, how are you guys not getting this? >> Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, I guess the kind of the question in a way becomes like, look, how many people are the reason why, again, like you said, the reason why the Democrats are in a decent situation right now is purely because of how much the Trump administration is [ __ ] up. That's it. There's nothing else that they've done except happen to be sitting there as the opposition party while your opponent makes a ton of mistakes. Um, but yeah, I mean, well, I don't know, Rob. I mean, there's a whole lot of us people. I I mean, you know, I'm I don't know how big of a voting demographic it is, but there's a decentsized voting demographic who fall into the broad camp of being like, I supported Donald Trump in 2024. And I don't see I don't see I mean aside from obviously if Thomas Massie were to run I'll support Thomas Massie and whatever he does but I don't see a path toward getting guys like me and you to just be supporting a Rubio or a Vance. I don't think there's any chance of that happening. And so and I don't know that there's really the same version of the Democrats. How many people are there who voted for Camala Harris who just like refused to vote for the net? Probably not that many. Um, and so we'll see. >> I guess what it will come down to and uh I I did not actually vote for Trump, but I was rooting for him. And I think it will come down to uh put it this way. If uh Nam's running and Nam's running on uh we're going to start regulating Bitcoin, we're bringing back green energy. Uh we need to censor the internet for medical discontent. And he starts flirting with all the horrible Democratic ideas that you feel like you need to vote against because they're actually uh dangerous just to live as a free person in this country. You'll see more enthusiasm for even a bad Republican. But >> no, that's that's true. if he's if he's smart enough to be neutral or if I don't think AOC is the person or if they're smart enough to have someone to pretend like they're going to clean up government corruption and that we're not supporting foreign wars and we're rolling back support for Israel and really playing to uh kind of I'm going to say the feeling in people's hearts of that this country is working against them and engaging in evil around the world while we're not concerned with domestic policy our own economic uh prosperity I think there's a lane for success for the Democrats. >> Yeah. Well, the thing about it is, Rob, is that they never run on any of that stuff. They never run on we're going to do we're going to do internet censorship and we're going to shut they're not going to run on that. Joe Biden ran on a return to normaly and being a one-term president and blah blah blah. You know what I'm saying? Like it's not >> Well, they run on they do run on green energy and essentially increasing socialism. They might not put it quite in the terms that I did, but it's pretty transparent when they're talking about dangerous of uh other people's opinions on the internet that that translates to internet censorship. >> Well, look, I mean, I am uh genuinely uh scared of what of the Democratic establishment retaking control because I do think they're going to have to try to crack down on speech this time. And I think they're going to come back um with a vengeance if they come back. Um that being said, I'm just kind of starting to look at what who is going to be that person for them. And I Well, look, I'll I'll I'll get to where I'm going with this eventually, but let's let's play the other clip of uh AOC because there was another AOC one, which is fun. >> I think what we identify is that in a rules-based order, hypocrisy is vulnerability. And so I think what we are seeking is a return to a rules-based order that eliminates the hypocrisies around when too often in the west we look the other way for inconvenient populations um to act out these paradoxes. I think what we ident >> you get that Rob, >> you know what? Maybe she's too smart for me because I'm not sure what she said. I literally don't know what she said. >> No, that was She went full Cammy Harris on that one. Just putting words together that sound nice. >> She's just like, I don't know. I' I've heard a smart person say rules-based order once, so maybe I'll throw that out there. Yeah. I don't know. AOC is um she is simply not ready for a presidential run. She's just not uh you know it it's a weird thing because she can as you kind of mentioned in some settings she can be kind of charming and kind of be like oh she she was a pretty good messenger for this or that. She's got she's she's I think it it really is like a she's too much of a lightweight intellectually. she doesn't actually know anything or have anything to say. And um there is something I I think just particularly after Hillary Clinton and after Camala Harris, this particular brand of like woman who's completely full of [ __ ] saying nothing in many words is not going to uh is not going to fly. That is my guess. I will say, Rob, this is kind of what I was leading to before. I um I think listen I I'm not trying to say anything too bold or you know over the top here. I think right now the sleeper is Stephen A. Smith. Now I'm not saying he's going to be the nominee. That's still a long shot. But Stephen A. Smith really seems to want to run for president. He went out of his way uh like this was like six months, eight months ago where he had this thing where he went out of his way to say, "I'm not closing the door on that. I am like someone's asking him and he was like, "Yeah, I am considering it." Um and look, I mean, obviously Stephen A. Smith has some some issues like he doesn't know anything about polit dude. He even said Rob, I don't know if you saw this the clip, this like six months ago or something like that where he said, "I'm not closing the door. I am seriously considering it. You know, a lot of people want me to run it. I'm considering it. And he goes, you give me a couple years to hit the books and really read about policy and I'm going to come out prepared and ready to do it. And I it was just like I don't know for whatever to me it was like the most infuriating, insulting [ __ ] thing to say. Like first of all, like the idea of like I'll hit the books and figure out the policy thing. Like I've already decided I want to run for president and yeah, we'll get to that whole policy thing at some point. you go that you don't even know what you're what side of the issue you're on. Like it doesn't even what what do you mean? You the policy isn't the thing you could figure out later. That's supposed to be the driving force for why you'd want to run to begin with because you care so much about issues of policy. He's literally This is how vapid this guy is. He's just admitting that like oh that's yeah that what what I believe in we'll figure out along the way. It's also just like I mean I don't know. just it it shows you how fundamentally unserious of a person he is that to even think dude like to say like oh I'll hit the books for a couple years and then I'll be ready to run for president of the United States of America like it's it's like me it's like me Rob if I were to go to you like I've never boxed in my life I've like been on the inside of a boxing gym like twice in my life ever I me and my friends used to throw on the gloves and box at my buddy's backyard or whatever. That's about the most boxing experience I had. But it'd be like uh if I were like to you, Rob, I was like, "You know what? I'm going to start boxing. I'm going to go join this gym." Uh you know, I'm going to go join this really good boxing gym. And you'd be like, "Oh, okay. Cool. That's a cool thing to do." And I go, "I'm going to do it for like a couple years and then I'm going to challenge for the light heavyweight title of the world." You'd be like, "Wait, wait, what?" Like, dude, there's no there's no possible way in a couple years you can be good enough to be at the like I don't I'm just I've been obsessively studying this [ __ ] for 20 years, dude. The idea that you're going to catch up in a couple years to even be on the level of like a podcaster, let alone Anyway, it is ridiculous. >> I think he caught a case of Trump confidence. >> Yes, but that's the point in a way. All of that is just an issue for guys like me and you to be like, "That's [ __ ] You don't really know what you're talking about." But as Trump's proven, that isn't actually what matters, dude. That's not what [ __ ] matters. And I gotta say, dude, I'm just saying looking at the field right now, like if if you remove all like ethics or or like values and beliefs or anything like that, right? Like if you could just remove all of that and let's just say this was just like it was your job to get Stephen A. Smith elected, you know? If you could put yourself in that in that frame of mind, I I'd be excited at the prospects right now. Like if that was just the job again, remove all morality and ethics and it's just like this is all in a vacuum and it's just you get you get a $100 million if you can get Stephen A. Smith elected and you're completely in charge of his campaign. I'd go, dude, I think we can win this thing and I think I could get this for you. Like if you let me [ __ ] do and here's why. Again, I'm still admitting it's a it's a long shot. He's the the dark horse. He's not the favorite. No racist pun intended. Um, but he uh here's the thing. Stephen A. Smith has a unique set of skills that actually really help in this situation. He is um Stephen A. Smith is a sports radio um clickbait start an argument guy. He'll take really provocative positions. He doesn't even believe half of them, but he'll defend him to the death. And he's very good on his feet. He's very good at he he's had decades of just practicing this skill of shallow [ __ ] surface level debate that plays well on camera. And like that actually is the level of debate that presidential candidates have to deal with. He's good at reading the room and saying the thing that will get the majority of the room to start nodding. He's good on camera. That's what he that's all he's good at is on camera. And that's essentially, as Trump has proven, what the whole game is. And this is a big one, Rob. He has, this is really the biggest one. This is why my eyes would get wide in my amoral universe where I make $100 million if he gets in. He is completely unattached to all of the failures of the Democratic establishment. All of them. He has nothing to do with any of them. He and he's quite comfortable to throw them under the bus. Yeah, Biden was a mess. Yeah, Camala Harris was terrible. Yeah, Obama is divisive. Yep, he does not attach to any of it. That is the advantage that Donald Trump had in 2016 is that he could sit from a bird's eye view, take these popular positions, and then just blast everyone and go, "Oh, I don't know. You guys are the ones who broke this." Me, I was over there in the private sector winning. I don't know what that, you know what I mean? Like, and I don't know. I just think nobody else is emerging. this guy clearly wants to do it and he does have he is positioned and skilled to maybe be able to pull this job off. That being said, it'll be I mean he's awful and doesn't know what he's talking about and isn't impressive or smart, but I think there's potential there, Rob. I don't think he should be underestimated. All right, guys. Let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is Brunt Workware. The most comfortable, durable work boots you will ever own. They sent me a pair of them. I know Louis uh uh loves them, too. I wear them all the time. They're t typically speaking, and we've all known this, if you want like a good pair of work boots, they're going to be brutal on your feet. Um and if you want a real comfortable shoe, they're not going to be very good to work in. Brunt has changed all of that. They've made the most durable uh work boot that feels like a a sneaker that you've had for five years. It's like literally the first time you put your feet in them, it's just incredibly comfortable. 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I do believe a vast majority of Americans, judge you on the content of your individual character rather than the color of your skin. I think a lot of people in America, especially in this day and age, now more so than ever before, it's not about race. It's about the fact that they don't give a damn about it because they got their own problems. That's entirely different than believing they are superior to you and they want to hold you back from ascending. That's not what's going on to the degree that it was decades ago. What's going on now is that we have more white Americans and others suffering and worried about the state of our nation. And because they're concerned about that, that's where their worries lie. >> You worry about racism. >> Listen, dude. Look, I understand what he said there is just fairly simple. um it's being universally very wellreceived and it is in a way I gotta say look Donald Trump in the same sense it's it's almost kind of similar to Donald Trump in you know as we've been saying in a lot of ways Stephen A Smith much like Donald Trump has no views on policy whatsoever does not have there's not like he's not like us like he doesn't have views about policy and you're very interested in it and you've read several books on the subject and you feel that this argument is correct. But what he does have is and and Trump had this too. It it's an abil they're very very good self-promoters and self-marketers and when like what what what he just kind of did there was actually I think fairly sophisticated and represents a lane that Democrats could fill. You know, like what he what he just did there, right, was they go, "Oh, well, essentially the question isn't even the question. The question is, what are you gonna signal right now? It's well, we all know that you're a black man and we live in a systemic racist society and therefore you are a member of the oppressed group, so you'll be running as a member of the oppressed group, right?" Like, that's essentially the question. even though by the way there's we had a black president who got reelected and served two terms and was very very popular at least at the beginning of his presidency. um and one in a landslide and um but what Stephen A. Smith does there is he rejects the premise of the question and he goes, "No, I'm not running that way. I'm not running as I'm a member of a marginalized group." And he pivots in a way he he takes it and goes, "No, I'll be channeling that into like an anti-woke pro-pop populist message." No, the answer isn't that white people are also evil and that's why they hate black people. The thing is that white people are getting screwed over the same as black people are getting screwed over and it's being done by them against all of us. That is a that is a really [ __ ] powerful political lane to run in. And that is where and I'm not sure the party is smart enough to figure this out, but that's where the energy is or that's where the potential is for the Democrats. It's what the Democrats, if they were smart, should be running on is like, get away from this racial identitarian [ __ ] because that is not popular and it's not true in any meaningful sense. Um, but the this is the thing, Rob, right? This is why uh Donald Trump has really screwed over JD Vance's presidential aspirations here is that what Donald Trump's essentially done is he's he's left the populist lane open now and the question is going to be who can take that who can run in that lane now it's going to be next to impossible for JD Vance to do it. This is how JD Vance um this is how he won his Senate campaigns was running as a populist and it's how he ran for vice president. I don't think he's going to be able to do that again in in 28. Um and I don't think anyone short of Thomas Massie would be able to do that on the Republican side. Maybe maybe Rand Paul could. Um but or maybe there's someone I'm just not thinking about, but I don't really think anyone else can. And I don't think AOC She's just too married to all the woke [ __ ] for her to be able to let it go. It's too much her identity. And uh Gavin Newsome, of course, is just too much of an elitist to run as a populist. He he clearly is of the ruling elite. And so Stephen A. Smith seems to be the guy who could do this over there. He's famous. He's wealthy. You know, he's he's used to being on camera. Rob, I mean, again, it's kind of the same point we just made, but we know a thing or two about politics here. We care about people who are well read and make good arguments and have the correct policy, but does is that actually what wins elections, or is it being rich and famous and good on camera? You tell me. >> On the uh Republican side, if it's not in 28, uh it'll be in 32. But I think Josh Holly's kind of set him up as the uh well spoken, handsome populist. uh and I don't agree with him because uh he's basically just become a social democrat in his defense of Medicaid and other social programs. But in terms of uh trying to win a populist uh election, I think he's somewhat setting himself up for that. Uh, in terms of on the Democratic side, you know, it's interesting because I think the elites like the fake divisiveness and you're right that Steven's playing a winning hand, but I think in part the Democrats almost don't want to explore that lane because they kind of they kind of need that fake divisiveness of that it's not us versus them and it's not the elites cheating us all out of our money. it's uh you and your small racial group and some other actual group in the population that has kept you down and not money printing and other agendas. Now, Stephen Smith's not going to put together that it's the Fed. He might he might come to inflation. Um but I don't think he's going to quite understand, >> you know, that money is more available for for the wealthy and people in uh w with uh with assets. >> Yeah. Well, look, I mean, there's no question. Yes. No, he's not going to figure out economics in the next few months that he's hitting the books. Uh I think that you're right that they the broadly speaking the elite would rather there not be a populist campaigner for obvious reasons. You know, this is and this is a big part of the reason why they uh why why the DC establishment had such a huge reaction to Donald Trump running for president to begin with. It's a reason why they had a reaction against Bernie Sanders running to be president. And Bernie Sanders, look at him. He's not a real threat to power. He's been in the Senate for [ __ ] ever. Um he's he's not a threat to power in any meaningful sense. But Bernie Sanders is running a campaign where he's telling, you know, an army of young people that it's the billionaires and the big banks and, you know, okay, despite him getting a whole lot of things wrong, there are a lot of billionaires and big banks out there that have a lot of influence over this system and you start pointing the finger at them and they don't like that too much. And same with Donald Trump is all drain the swamp is not the message they want to hear. However, I think it's becoming more and more clear that that's the only message the people want to hear on both sides. Um, on both sides, people are well aware of the fact that DC is just the most corrupt goddamn town in the universe. And Stephen A. Smith to me seems again very Trumpian in the sense that I don't think he really cares about anything other than like, oh, this could be huge for me. I could be the winner. I could be the guy who does this thing. And I think they'll smell that all over him and realize that he can be completely controlled. And so, you know what I mean? Like, I think there's a chance there to uh make this win. And look, we still do. I mean, not so much in the Democratic primaries, as you know, Rob, but there is still a democratic process. Um, and that's the reason why Bernie Sanders was able to give Hillary Clinton a lot of problems. and the Democratic establishment. It cannot be overstated how weak how much weaker they are now than they were when they were able to just say Hillary Clinton has been anointed. She's been the one who's chosen. She's going to do this cuz people have followed the Democratic establishment into eight years of Donald Trump now. And so he's just he's going to be in a much better situation to do that, I think, than he was. I'm checking in on the uh the chat here a little bit. Go ahead. >> If there's a Democratic primary, I think Stephen A. Smith can wipe the floor with uh both AOC and if uh Camala Harris decides to try and do a reboot. Um I think the he he will have a problem with Nome uh who will be able to play the card of hey, I actually know how to do this job. And while you and I will be able to see through it and go, hey, you got this terrible track record. He does a pretty good job of uh pretending like California is wonderful and uh people seem to buy it from from him. >> Look, this is the thing that Stephen A. Smith is really good at though, dude. And this is why I think he's a sleeper. He is really good at debating whatever the issue is. Like Stephen A. Smith is the type of guy who you could go, okay, your take is that Jordan Jordan is better than LeBron and he could go out there and argue for with the biggest LeBron fan and have a ton of [ __ ] to say and never [ __ ] hesitate and never have a moment of being looking completely certain and confident the entire time. And then you could grab him and go, "Okay, now you're going into this debate and you're debating that LeBron is better than Michael." And he'd go, "No problem." and go in there with the exact same confidence in the exact and I'm telling you, dude, you put him on a debate stage, even with Gavin Newsome, he's going to they're he's going to be a problem for these guys, dude. He's I I just I know this stuff very well. I know like how debates work, especially these [ __ ] presidential debates. And like he's got a set of skills that'll be a problem. And all he's got to do, dude, to even what you said there with Gavin Newsome, he'll he'll prep for that. He'll prep for like, oh, what are the five talking points that I can just dominate him with and really pick apart how bad California is? Pick he I I think I think he could be trouble for them. We'll see. Again, this is all very early. Um, checking in on on the chat here. If you guys have any questions or comments, go ahead and and put them in the chat. We'll try to get to a few of them. By the way, if you want to watch the show live and adree and uncensored, uh, and you want to get the membersonly fourth episode a week, sign up over at part ofthepro.com. And you also get to be in the uh in the live chat. Um I said uh M uh Marjorie Taylor Green is being floated out there. I don't think she's uh really got the presidential quality. I like I like Marjorie Taylor Green. She's been she's really surprised me and been a lot better than I thought she would be, but I don't know, Rob. I don't see her running for president. Um little bit too much of a wild card if you ask me. Yeah, I don't see that one either. And I also think uh having left Congress, I don't think sets her up better. >> Right. Right. Yeah. No, I think that's a that's a very good point. Um um this is a What is this? Hold on, Natalie. What is this AOC video that you got? Oh, is this a new one here? >> Uh no, that was that one was from uh from me. And uh >> it's old. It's funny. I thought I thought it was recent. And I should have noticed cuz I was looking I was like, man, did AOC get attractive again? Did they clean her up? And then I just realized it was from 2022. But I do think it displays her lack of understanding of basic economics and a fundamental flaw in uh in her general approach to these things. >> All right, here let's let's play it. And it get it gets more interesting in the second half where uh she's explaining how uh the benefits of COVID uh should not be faulted for inflation, but the entire thing's worth a listen. >> Okay. >> I want to ask you about inflation and interest rates and uh Fed Chair Powell who recently said that um the strong labor market made it appropriate for him to soon raise interest rates. I wonder what your take on that is. Well, you know, I think particularly when we have this this conversation in the context of inflation as well, it's really not just labor. It's not just rising wages, but there's a lot of different dynamics that I think are contributing to the increase in prices. whether it's supply chain complications, yes, labor issues, but sometimes lack of labor, um a lack of the ability to be able to work consistently in their jobs, which is also tied to pandemic controls. And also, there's a real distinction to be made between inflation and price gouging. And there's a lot of evidence that particularly industries with high concentrations, corporate concentrations, um whether it's almost oligopoly level industries, a lot of these price increases are potentially due to just straight price gouging by corporations. >> Are you concerned about inflation and higher interest rates and the impact on working people? >> Those aren't fair questions. wherever prices are increasing. >> He's asking, "Why are you asking all these big boy questions of little AOC here?" >> Also, I mean, whatever. >> I mean, by the way, >> do you remember back in 22 when this was like the talking point that the left all the left could come up with was like, "Oh, well, no, it's just that the corporations are so mean, so they just jack up." Like, again, like what exactly even is the definition of price gouging? like is there a certain percentage of profit that then that's gouging verse not gouging? It's like you almost like wonder like with some of these people like do you have to take it back to the most basic of economics to just go like you go okay okay so first of all corporations are so greedy that they're price gouging. Well why are they doing that now? Why did they happen to just get greedy after you infuse n$9 trillion dollars into the economy? Like why weren't they really greedy before? By the way, also like why don't they charge even more? Why did they stop there? Like why I don't know like the you know the corner store who that sells milk? Why don't they charge $100,000 for milk? I mean is it because that corporation isn't that greedy? They just didn't want to gouge and other ones did? No, dude. E, everyone who sells a good is trying to sell it for the most that they can sell it for. Everybody's trying to profit as most as much as they can. And then this crazy dynamic. Consumers are trying to get it for as cheap as they can get it for. There's like it's like they have no idea that there's this fundamental like balance in the economy that right, think about anybody who works a job. you want like you want to get paid $10 million a year and your boss would like it if he could pay you nothing and you would do the job. Why does it end up being around where? Well, because there's a market and that you got to find a price where it's enough that they'll pay you to keep you coming to work. Is if they go too low, you'll go, "No, I'll go find something else." And if you ask for too high, they'll be like, "No, we won't make any money if we pay you $10 million a year." So you find a, you know what I mean? You find a price in the middle. Yes. Greed, whatever exactly the [ __ ] greed means. I love when Milton Friedman used to say, "What is greed?" And he goes, "Of course, none of us are greedy. It's always the other guy who's greedy." But yes, that is a that is what we would call Rob a constant. It doesn't go up or down. Corporations always want to make the profit that they can make. Um, so anyway, uh, >> there's also a storyline of if you wanted to talk about corporate greed, I think if you were to look at a Walmart, it's a greediness of the way that they're, uh, squeezing suppliers or maybe even importing cheaper goods because American manufacturers couldn't provide the goods at the prices that they're requiring. But, you know, some of these producer, some of these bigger companies, they uh really squeeze the producers of we'll buy a lot of your content, but you got to get it for this low of a price. The idea that Walmart's model is trying to squeeze uh consumers and try and uh have the market for the highest prices, that's not that's not the way Walmart operates. Walmart's trying to >> The entire the entire way that Walmart took over was by undercutting everyone's prices. That was their greedy um uh um bet and it worked. They took a Walmart would close it, you know, like people would always say, right, Walmart closes down all the mom and pop shops. But no, it doesn't. It doesn't. You know who closes down the mom and pop shops? The mom and pop shops customers who chose to go to Walmart instead. And why do they do that? Because it's cheaper. And you know, it's it's it's easy for leftists to look at this and just like, well, if you raise prices that that's because of corporate greed. If you lower prices, well, that's because of corporate greed. You're putting mom and pop shops out of business. But like, no, that's actually for poor people. It's a really big deal when you lower the cost of clothes for children and food and whatever electronics and toys and all that stuff. So, you know, there was an there's an old uh like free market uh joke where it was something about um it was uh it's like three businessmen are in jail and uh the first guy's in and they go, "What are you in for?" And he goes, "Uh um price gouging." And then the uh he goes, "I was charging more than my competitors." So they charge me with price gouging. And then they asked the second guy, "What are you in for?" And he goes, "Uh, um, predatory pricing because I was undercutting all of my, uh, all of my competitors." And then they go, "Uh, the third guy, what are you in for?" And he goes, "I charge the exact same thing as all of my competitors, so they got me for collusion." And, um, and like the joke is just that like no matter what, the the same answer will always be, "Oh, it's corporate greed." Okay. But like, I'm sorry, that just doesn't make any sense. All you got to do is think about this. use your like common sense and think about it for five seconds. It's like it doesn't make any sense. >> All right. I I think the second half of this is uh is particularly telling of her acumen and uh even her ability to defend socialist policies. >> All right, let's see. >> And it's making it difficult for someone to be able to feed their family. That is always going to be a major point of concern, primary point of concern. Uh but the real key is making sure that we're diagnosing the causes correctly because the danger here is that if we say we're helping working people too much and say that the cause of this is oh it's because we provided too much assistance during the American Rescue Plan, stimulus checks were too generous. That is why we are dealing with the problems that we're dealing with now. What that's going to result in is a pullback in the assistance that some families need the most right now. And when we already talk about the sessation of the child tax credit, >> the stupidity of if we gave people too much free money and that drove up prices, the idea that we then shouldn't give people free money because it doesn't actually work. because there's another side to the equation of if people have too much free stuff, it actually makes things more unaffordable. Well, we can't say that. Even if that's what's happening in reality, we don't want to say that because then the conclusion would be it's bad to give people free stuff and we can't possibly come to that conclusion. Even if that is reality, we can't come to that conclusion because it would undermine my entire identity. It would undermine my entire philosophy. And so let's ignore the unintended consequence of pretending like we can give people free stuff because sure in this environment it didn't work out well and it drove up prices. But if we acknowledge that then we can't continue to do this thing. It's the best thing I've ever heard. >> No, that is some highlevel uh question begging right there. I mean it is right like pure circular logic that essentially goes well you know I get I really don't like us being out here saying socialism is the reason for price inflation because then that's going to lead to less socialism and so right I mean right it's like look you may not like the idea that uh injecting trillions of dollars into the economy makes the existing dollars less valuable you may not like that but that's like these are the laws of economics. These are very basic laws of of uh supply and demand and um yeah that's quite the defense for it. Yeah. But if we say that then people won't want more government programs. Well yeah I mean that's right. If we if they understand that these are the costs associated with them then yeah that would be the logical conclusion to not want any more of this. 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Once again, lovebirdfoods.com/dave, promo code Dave, for 25% off your first order. All right, let's get back into the show. Um, so, okay. Is there was there more to this that you thought was uh was that >> I mean that was the moment that I really was like wow this is incredibly stupid but there might be more to it. >> Well, you know what I want to let's switch over to um because I wanted to play just before we get out of here because there was this other uh clip of Hakeem Jeff that's uh that was going viral and I just thought this was interesting because again it speaks to the fact that and and Hakee Jeff is um at least in my life I think fair I mean, I've I've thought there were examples like this in Republican leadership, certainly in the Trump era, but at least to some degree, right, when when it was Pelosi in leadership or when it was um uh Schumer, there was kind of like a feeling that they ran the DNC or they ran the the the Democratic establishment. Hakeem Jeff just seems like he's just like a figurehead like this, you know, but it goes it goes to show you how much there is no leadership in the Democratic party and how there is no lane that they've picked. So here was uh this is Hakee Jeff. He was on with Joy Reed um who needs no introduction and also that guy who if you remember we um we responded to the video he made about how brown people are so much better than white people or something like that. These guys represent the kind of like one wing of the left which would be like the just openly vicious racist wing of the left. I I don't know. It's a It's a thing that like um I think this has changed a little bit, but in a in my life, in our culture, there's for, you know, several reasons. Um and a big part of it is how much the narrative has been controlled. Um the it's very easy for people to just rep uh recognize uh bigots on the right. It's for whatever reason a little bit tougher for them to recognize it on the left, but that's all these guys are. But so here you have uh Hakee Jeff being grilled by the woke racist wing of the Democratic party. So let's watch that >> with impunity. >> Representative, may I I'm going to give I'm going to give you some numbers. Uh just today it came out that ICE is using 38 billion dollars to convert warehouses into camps. I'm going to call them concentration camps. Your colleague, Representative Raskin, went to one just yesterday in Maryland and said there were 60 people, 60 people cramped like sardines in one room who only had access to one toilet. 65% of people taken by ICE had no convictions. That's from the KO Institute, a right-wing institute. ICS has killed eight people this year alone that we know of. Two of them, Renee Nicole Good and Alex Pretty. The latest polls came out this week, AP polls, over 60% of Americans now disapprove of ICE. That means in 3 weeks it's gone from 30% to 60%. Now, if I may, I'm going to be a bit blunt here. Leaders lead. And what we've seen is people are impressionable. If you lead on something, people will follow. It seems the wind is behind your back for the first time ever. ICE has a history, CPP has a history of terrorizing black and brown communities. People are asking themselves, why are we, our taxpayer dollars, paying for masked lawless men to terrorize our communities, kidnap people, take children, and kill Americans? So, I ask you, and I'm do following up to Joy because I want an answer to this. You said you want to reign in ICE. I'm saying I'm talking about the long term now. Why not lead and say abolish ICE? Because what you're telling us is you want our taxpayer dollars to pay for a lawless matched armed agency to continue terrorizing our cities. And I'm trying to figure out how you as a leader can be telling Americans that pause it right here for a second >> cuz look this first off it's pretty funny that he says Kato the far right institution goes yeah but what are they on immigration? They're the biggest like open borders you know uh advocacy group. So that's not exactly making the point he thinks it is. Um, and just leave aside almost for a second the [ __ ] in this guy's question and the fact that this is the same guy who we have on tape just uttering like racial superiority about his group. You know what I mean? But anyway, whatever feelings you have about this guy and Joanne Reed, they're both dumb, you know, uh, not even leftists, they're dumb, essentially establishment hacks. Um, but I just want you guys to like think about that. This is the answer that Democratic leadership has to this question. Here's Hakeim Jeff. >> I don't understand anything that you just said when I've when I don't understand anything that you've just said to me when I've made clear that taxpayer dollars should be used to make life more affordable for the American people, not brutalize or kill them. That's the whole reason we're in this fight right now. That's the whole reason I mean, god damn, Rob. I mean, just like this is [ __ ] >> That's Pam Bondi level right there. Stock market's up, >> dude. But even just like I don't know, man. I just feel like reading one book about economics should inoculate you from ever being a leftist. it just like to even like be saying like even when they say these things they go I believe taxes should be used to make life more affordable like okay well here's the thing about taxes they um by definition make life less affordable because we have to pay them like how How how do you you know what would make life afford more affordable for every goddamn working person in this country is lowering their taxes? That's what would make life more affordable. The idea that you're just going to say there we're going to I'm going to try to make you richer, Rob, by giving you a big bill. Where's the what's the problem with that thinking? But I guess he does concede it shouldn't be spent for the government to brutalize you or something like that. But look, I mean, he's asked point blank a very clear question here, like why not just go abolish ICE? Why is that not your position? And his response is I don't understand what you're saying. I don't even understand here. Let's let's keep playing. Is getting ready to shut down. That's a You agree with me, Joy? Abolish ICE. That that is a Listen, I'm gonna use the language that I want to use. You can use the language that you want to use. And the language that I'm using right now relates to these type of bold, meaningful, dramatic changes that are designed to save lives right now in communities that look like the ones that I represent. And that's the goal. >> So, let me ask you this. Yeah. And I hear what you're saying. >> A single Democrat together in the House and in the Senate is what we're trying to do to give us the best shot to win this fight right now while we're in the minority. >> My my question though is more about >> dial over here. >> Yeah. So, okay. So, again, this is um this is just pathetic. They have no ability. Like when he says he goes, I'm going to use the words I choose to use and you use the words you choose to use. And it's like, dude, it's a very specific question here. Are you for abolishing this organization or not? And he can't just muster up the [ __ ] backbone to go, well, no, I disagree with that. You know, I think we should reign in abuses by ICE, but I don't think we can abolish ICE. And you can't, you know what I'm saying? like he he can't just like make an argument for why like no look our answer can't be abolish all border enforcement, abolish border patrol, abolish ICE. Like that can't be our answer. That's not, you know, like he can't. But again, this is pathetic and would never win. You know who would do that is Stephen A. Smith. But whatever you say about him, he would sit right there in the pocket and go, "No." And I think if you want to run on Biden's immigration policy, good luck with that. But you're going to get destroyed. Like there there's no way you're winning an election like that. And Democratic leadership doesn't have the balls to do that. I don't think AOC or Gavin Newsome have the balls uh to do that. >> Smith endorses Smith. >> I do not endorse. I don't think Listen, short of uh like Thomas Massie wants to run, he's got my endorsement. Um, I it ran Paul or somebody like that. Um, I don't think I'm going to be in the game of endorsing politicians who I don't really like uh in the future. I I got burned in that game. I don't think I'm going to do that again. Um, but hey, we'll see. Who knows where uh the country is going to be by the time it's actually uh getting to 2028. But anyway, look, man, obviously the theme on our show for for a while has been how much the Trump administration is [ __ ] up in a monumental way, and that's all still very true. But man, the Democrats are still a hot mess of garbage. That's worth that's worth being reminded every now and then. All right, catch you guys tomorrow. Brand new episode. See you guys in Perryville, Maryland on Saturday. Uh that show is almost sold out. Grab tickets if you want to come out. All right, catch you guys tomorrow. Peace.

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