Favorite 'Parks and Rec' Memories | Good Hang with Amy Poehler

Hello everyone. Welcome to another episode of Good Hang. We are continuing our clip package episodes and this is the second of three. So, we will be back with new episodes and guests in just two weeks. But this week, we are putting together uh an amazing episode of all of the people from parks and recreation who have come into the studio and sat and talked to us. And it is a great list. It is Mike Sher, Rashidita Jones, Aziz Ansari, Katherine Han, Paul Rudd, Aubrey Plaza, Adam Scott, and please know there are more coming. In fact, a little teaser, we do have Nick Offererman joining us in season two of this podcast. If there are seasons and podcasts, we are insisting there are. And so, um, you're going to hear from all of these people today. And the reason why we're doing these um these clip shows is because I am finishing up shooting a new show for Peacock called Dig with my buddy Mike Sher who uh as we all know um created Parks and Rex. So let's kick off this episode by hearing from Mike Sher first. This episode of Good Hang is presented by Subaru. Some cars go the extra mile. Long range Subaru hybrids take that to a whole new level with up to 597 miles per tank in the Cross Track Hybrid, a car that I have given my family and up to 581 m per tank in the Forester hybrid. Another car that I also enjoy, Subaru. Love goes the extra mile. Visit subaru.com/hybrid to learn more. range based on EPA estimated combined fuel economy and full tank of fuel. Actual mileage and range may vary. >> All I ever wanted was a really good >> in the very very beginning the idea for the spin-off of the office or was it even an idea for spin-off was what? Well, so Bencame Parks and Ben Silverman was running NBC and they asked he asked Greg to like do a spin-off. And so Greg's response typically thoughtful and considered was I would love to do another show. If the best idea that I have for a show is a spin-off, then I will do a spin-off. If the best idea I have is something else, I'll do something else. Greg is a real one of the the main things that he gave me in terms of like how to do this job is best idea wins. Doesn't matter who it comes from. If it's staff writer or a 25-y year veteran co-P or a person who works in costumes or whatever, best idea wins. That's it. No. And there is no uh correlary to that. In every situation that you're in creatively, best idea wins. And so that's what he said basically to Ben. And he was like, "It's very important to me that you understand that if the best idea I have is not a spin-off of The Office, uh, then we're going to do something else." And Ben was like, "Totally hear you, buddy." And the next day in the variety, he was like, "Office spin-off is coming." Then just totally ignored him and just announced an office spin-off. >> Sure. >> So, uh, so Greg and I started meeting. Greg asked me to do it with him. So, we started meeting. We would go to Norm's Diner in the Valley >> uh like twice a week for breakfast >> and we would just think of ideas and we would talk about what interested us and what was going on and we would inch down a little path and then hit a dead end and then inch back and we would um we just met constantly over showing your work. We met all the time forever and eventually came up with the idea of like, you know, and and by the way, just to say it, some of the ideas we talked about were office spin-offs. There were like Craig Robinson and Rain Wilson and all these people on the show who could clearly be on their own show. >> So, we talked about family shows with them or whatever. Greg was, I think, wary of taking assets away from a show that was very successful in part because of its large, rich cast. We stumbled upon this idea of like, okay, Dunder Mifflin on the office is a fake company and it's a way to saterize the private sector. What if we create a whole fake town and sadderize the public sector? And as we're having that idea, the world economy goes kabooy and they're talking about like massive government bailouts and we start to realize that like the government, obviously federal really, but also state and local was like going to be very present in people's lives. I had this idea for an abandoned lot that would be turned into a park over the course of the entire run of the show. Very wirey idea. I was obsessed with the wire as were you. >> Yeah, we're we share that. We um >> um and I thought like the the way that The Wire portrayed like calcified systems and how slow gears grind and stuff was fascinating to me and I thought it would be really funny where in the p if it if you did a show that ideally lasts for a long time and in the pilot it's like we're going to do this and then it literally doesn't get done till the very end of like 9 years later. So that was the idea that I really like. Greg then was like what if it's not a lot? What if there's like a giant hole in the ground? What if it's a pit? And I was like that's so much better. And so that idea of all the 73 ideas we had started to like >> fizzy fizzy up. And it obviously is not a spin-off of The Office. And >> Greg, true to his word, was like, "This is what we want to do." At some point, we called you because we heard you were leaving. And you were like, "I'm theoretically interested in this. Let me know." The show was given a guaranteed 13 episode order, which now is very common place at the time was like insane. and The Office was going to be on after the Super Bowl that year and this show was going to launch after The Office. Then you called us back and said, "Actually, sorry, PGO." That's exactly what you said. You saidgo, I I sent you a telegraph. >> Stop. >> Shows off. Stop. >> And it was like, "Well, you're going to give birth like the week we have to shoot this, so no go." And then like I remember very clearly two weeks later I went into Greg's office and I was like you know there's no like we had we were working on the show at that point pretty strenuously and I was just like I just don't think there's anyone but Polar who can do this and he was like I had the same thought last night and very quickly we made a phone call to NBC and said if we can get Amy for this we will give up seven of the 13 guaranteed episodes cuz we'd only be able to make six. >> Dang. >> And give up the Super Bowl slot. Boy, you guys were I'm so appreciative you did that. >> I mean, it the thing was it was actually a very simple decision because we were like, you know, getting Amy Polar on your show is a long-term decision. Like that's a decision you make for like this what you hope will be a very long chunk of time. Like the Super Bowl slot is a short-term decision. It's like yeah, you'll get this like fisson of of energy, but like it doesn't last. Like no one ever like very rarely does that determine the fate of a TV show. And so we then called you back and said, "What if you could start shooting three months after you give birth?" And then we made the show. >> And it proved to be the most satisfying creative experience I've ever had. >> And I like >> more than this podcast. >> No, this is my number one. >> Number two, it's number two. >> Yeah. This is I mean besides this now one of the ways like very concrete ways to that is I feel like an example of what I'm talking about which is like the joy in the details is the way you like to name characters. >> Yeah. And I think you gave me um I think you allowed me to use this in my book actually, but you gave me like a list of possible names instead of Leslie Nope, the character I played on Parks Rec. Like you gave me like bunch of different alternative names, >> but you also love to name characters left and right. What is it? What is fun about names for you and naming? >> Okay, so it's two things. The first is growing up, first major comedic influence, Monty Python. MontiPython experts at silly stupid names like hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of them. You can go look them up and their sketches. >> But the actual the actual thing that's going on here is different. So I would go to actors IMDb pages to see what they had been in when we were casting in the early days of the show and you would see like woman number two or like man in crowd or guy with sandwich. And it really bummed me out. That person like auditioned for this and booked this gig and drove all the way across town and like put on fake clothes and put on makeup and whatever and had to stand in a certain place, follow a million instructions, say a line or two, and then they yelled cut, and then that person drove all the way home and they got paid like $600 for like a week's worth of work. >> And they should be there should be something better than man number two or man and crowd. Yeah. >> And so I decided at that moment, this is early in season one I think of Parks Wreck, that every character who appeared on the show was going to have a first and last name. So when you saw >> instead of if it says man and crowd, you're like, "Oh, well that it doesn't really count as an acting gig." But if you see Marv Vavma, which is a name I gave a character once, you're like, who the hell is Marv Vavma? What was Marva up to? So I and it has been that was it started with that intention and has become one of the great truly one of the great joys of my life is to give every because here's the other thing sorry you can cut all this out but the other thing is if you name a character um Jack Smith >> you can get away with it because there are 10 trillion Jack Smiths but if you name a character anything even mildly interesting like Winona Cooper there's going to be like four Winona Coopers in the state that you're setting the show in and then the legal comes back and says you can't name your character that. >> A lot of people don't know that you have to get names cleared >> be cleared and there have to be either none or so many that not any one of them could be could think that you're saying anything about them. So I go for none. >> None. >> Yeah. I go for the weirdest names. Uh we had a character recently on the show on a man on the inside named Aphilio Pepipe. There's no Ailia Pipa Pepes anywhere in the continental United States. So, you get to use that name. That has been my goal is to have none have have the Google search come up empty with every name of every character. >> Okay. With that in mind, will you please read some of these names that you have invented? >> Yeah. >> Like just a few here on the bottom of this page. >> Okay. >> Uh Mona Lisa Sapperstein. Yes. >> Jenny Slate's character. >> Yes. >> Uh >> do you remember all these? Amazing. >> Trod Frankenstein. >> Okay, tell us about >> Trod. So Trod Frankenstein was a local reporter or he had a like almost like a little show like this in Pawane where he would interview political people like Leslie Nope. >> A a great way to come up with a name that doesn't exist is to take a normal name like Todd and then just stick another letter in there somewhere. Trod and then Frankenstein is just Frankenstein with a P at the end. Uh Tyrion Fonzerelli. Tyrion Fonzerelli. Obviously a combination of two characters from TV history. Tyrion Lannister and Arthur Fonerelli. This name goes to Matt Murray. Matt Murray did this. >> Ah, Panther. >> Yeah, Panther. Matt Tyrion Fonerelli was right around Parks and Wreck among other things. >> Was a guy in a jewelry store who was buying a um an engagement ring for his to be betrothed when an and Chris Trager were shopping for rings. >> Great. Uh Leslie, nope. We know who that is. Gretzky Susan Pellegrino. Okay, this so >> Gretzky Susan Pelgrino was like the fourth in a series of names that that for some reason all involve the last name of the greatest hockey player who ever lived, Wayne Gretzky. I don't offhand remember who Gretzky Susan Pellegrino is. Also, it should be noted hyphens huge part of my naming process. >> Yeah. So exciting. >> It's a way to get another name in there. >> Another name. And also, there's no way that someone's going to have this name. >> No one's first name is Gretzky Susan. Gretzky hyphen Susan. >> Typhoon Montelbond. >> Oh, I love Typhoon. >> Typhoon was uh was Don's hairdresser. >> Yep. >> Uh Ty Typhoon also Matt Murray, I believe, named gave Typhoon the first name Typhoon. We needed a last name. Where do you go for the last name? Ricardo Monttobon. Typhoon. Monttobond. Cassandra Sassnanorp. Okay. Cassandra Sassnorp was I believe I could have this wrong. was just Sandra. It was like Sandra Snorp. >> Okay. >> And then the legal was like doesn't didn't clear. We found a Sandra Snorp. So guess what you do? You add five more S's. Now you're good. >> Sandra >> Sandra Sassnorp. >> Summer Ole Kraken Frogfrong. Okay. This is a MontiPython ripoff straight up. >> Okay. >> Um Olay O E with an accent. And uh and I guess just that part in there's a there's a MontiPython sketch called I think election night special where they're just going through election election results and local elections all over the country. And there's a there's a a silly party and a sensible party. So all the people in the sensible party have names like John Smith and all the people in the silly party have very crazy names. And there's also a very silly party and a slightly silly party. It's if you want names, go watch that sketch. It'll it'll uh it'll it'll sate you. Summer, Olay, Krak, and Frog Frog. That's a good one. Frog Frog is a great last one. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, do you think some of your best acting was in Parks and Wreck when you had to pretend that you didn't know who Genuine was? >> You know, it's it's still one of my biggest complaints. I remember we did the table read for that and I was like, "No, no, no one's gonna buy it because I don't buy it." Okay, pick anybody else on this cast to to try to play that in an honest way. It is so unfair that you're making me do this. It really Yeah, it still hurts >> because how how how familiar are you with genuine? You were married. >> Um I mean, you know, I live in '90s R&B. That's where my heart is. It's not here. I mean, it is with you, but and for the most part, it's part it's not present. It's in '90s R&B. So, >> he's a very important figure. >> Yeah. I feel like we have had some hard ass laughs. And I was trying to think the other day like places that we've laughed a deep laughs and it's it really does add years to my life. I know that. And I I wonder if you could tell the story about um when we were on um Parks and it was because we talked about it, we've talked about it before. when we were in parks and it was the first season. It was the hunting episode >> and just kind of set up uh we were shooting that whole week way far away somewhere in California, you know, I don't even remember where >> and we had to do a scene with Nick Offerman and that I think about it sometimes the way that laugh came. It was like it was giggle giggle orgasm city. But um but but uh don't worry, we'll cut that. But but um what do you remember about it? What do you want? >> Well, I remember we were he maybe ate something weird and we were trying to give him Ipac. >> So Nick Offererman playing Ron Swanson ate something. Yeah. I don't remember actually what happened in the show. >> I was like determined as a nurse that I was like you have to throw up. Like you can't right you're gonna get sick. And he's like I'm fine, right? And I we were trying to get this like liquid in his mouth and you know it's Hollywood so um things that happen like on camera don't actually happen in real life. So it was written that we like hold him down and he's resisting us and we give him this this thing. But like you don't know you don't know how small you are cuz I think both of us like I'm always like I'm like a tall person right? Like I ask people if if I feel tall, but I'm not. >> And I'm not. And I'm And I'm >> How tall are you? >> 53 and a half. >> Yeah. Yeah. I'm 5'2. >> And And And Nick is solid. >> Yeah. >> He's a solid dude. >> Yeah. He's like a Midwestern cornfed dude. >> Dense and like and muscular. And he >> we were trying to hold him down and he was whipping us around with such ease. Like we couldn't we actually the both of us could not hold him down. And he was like literally just go beep and we would just fly off the bed in each direction. We could not stop. >> One of us, we each had one arm. >> Yeah. >> And he would, it felt like just the flick of a wrist. He was being gentle. >> Yeah. He wasn't doing He wasn't fighting for his life. >> Yeah. No. No. >> And we could not get him to stay down. >> Could not. Could not. >> And I remember that feeling. Also, I think there's something fun about wrestling. Like there is so it's so good and being thrown around is so fun. >> Yes. and he was throwing us around and I feel like I just like if I was to picture it in my mind you were just like like I could just see you going past me and your hair going and then your legs going and me and I just remember like I remember seeing you flying by which can't be true but >> I feel like we were tumbling all over the floor like every time we got back on the bed we were like t and we were we were kind of like in each we were both trying to be like on top of him and then like just flipping over really quickly. >> And I think too because Nick is such a lovely gentle guy in general, we knew there was something about us that knew we weren't going to get hurt and but he was making like grunting bear sounds. >> It was really really really fun. >> That was a really I mean I'm trying to think of like there was so many good crackup moments. Crackup moments. I'm 100 years old. >> What a crackup. But I'm just like I was like >> there's that spot in in uh Andy and April's house. Remember where we could never get a scene done? Just that one that living room >> spot. Yeah. It was haunted. >> Yeah. And then I remember there was one time you were like Rashida cuz I could not get through it. But I really It felt like haunted. It did not feel like it was my fault. >> Yeah. I'm sorry I said that. There was I a couple times I would see bloopers for the show and I'd be like Amy. >> No, but those days were so long. They were long and it was fun until it wasn't. You're like, "Oh my god, it's 10 p.m. We just want to go home." >> I know. And the And there was a scene for people that um care. There was there was a a spot in that on that set where anyone who stood there couldn't get their lines and then of course it became self-fulfilling prophecy in many ways. >> Yeah. >> But there was just a lot of um deep laughs and deep um and deep laughs off camera. Like one of the thing one of the things I treasure And there's so many things I treasure about my friendship with you was that we would be talking like this and we'd be just talking and talking and just like talking about our day and talking about life and then they would just go or action and then we would just talk like Leslie and we'd do our scene and be like we kind I'll speak for myself kind of knew it kind of didn't >> and then they'd then they'd cut they'd work on it and we would just go back to talking like it was like a dream job. We filmed in between our conversations and also I think I remember very clearly in the pilot because we had already been friends for years when we shot the pilot and they were doing one of those spy shots and we were in your office and we were talking and it was like you know other people were like oh this is great like this is a thing that really works their friendship we're really going to be able to sell it and we're like uh duh >> duh no kidding >> what do you mean >> I mean they really did base the entire show at the end of the day on the fact that Leslie and an were, you know, each other's number one. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Not hard to do. >> No. And what I mean, we've talked about this before, but we when we first started the show, I think it was like it was kind of like we were trying to figure out who was going to play what part and who was going to come on board. And um and kind of like the beginnings of that show were I'll say a little clumy, >> crunchy, crunchy. crunchy. Can we talk about it? Yeah, I'd love to. Oh my god. >> Yeah, it was crunchy >> because I think for I I don't think a lot of people know this. For the beginning, I think we both were worried that we had taken each other's part >> like Yes. So, so I had been on hold for this untitled thing that was going to that Greg and Mike were going to write, right? And I had done a year on the office and they let me go which made sense. It was it made sense. I was >> You had such a tough job there because Yeah. >> Everybody wanted Jim and Pam and then guess who shows up? A very likable cool and everyone was like, "Oh no, wait. I love Karen." >> It did not feel that way. People did not like me. Like fans were not about it. But they had to create tension for the relationship to be earned later. So I was the third point in the triangle. It's fine. I like accept it. But anyway, so Mike was like, "We're working on this other show. I'll put you on hold. We don't know what it is yet." Remember, people thought it was like a spin-off of The Office for a second. >> But anyway, so they kept like kind of decide like changing the the car the main characters of the show. When they pitched it to me, the boss was a was a guy >> and they didn't know if they were going to cast me or not. But I remember you were extremely pregnant. >> Yeah. >> We had just gotten back from Italy. >> You and I were in Italy. That's right. >> We were in Italy and it was very hot. >> That's right. >> And a day later, >> you were like, "Let's go to lunch. I need to talk to you about something." >> Do you remember where we went? >> Past. >> Yes, I do. >> In New York City. >> I do. >> Oh, God. And I said, "Let's talk about something >> dear." >> No, no, no. You >> And I was like, I want you to raise this baby with me. >> It's yours. >> This baby is yours. I know. And you need to accept it. Um, but you no I actually hold this this moment as like a gold standard of friendship and being able to take care of your oneself and the person that you love at the same time. I really do, Polos, because it was what you did and how you did it was very hard because you took me to lunch and said, "I'm so sorry, but they offered me the part." Both of us thinking it was the same part I was on hold for >> being created by a friend of ours. And so I immediately started crying in besties and you held my hand and you were so warm and you were so there was something about it where you were like I know I'm sorry buddy but you also you didn't like do the thing that I sometimes do where I'm codependent where I'm like I know I suck. I'm the worst person. I don't even deserve it. Like whatever I would say to try to make the other person feel better which doesn't work. You didn't do that. you like held your space and you also comforted me at the same time which was like a very beautiful thing. >> I wonder what Sh's version of this is. >> Let me tell you because I left him a message almost immediately cuz I'm not shy. I was and I was like, "Oh, I'm such an idiot for thinking I could even be on the show. Like, anybody wants me on this show." Of course, I didn't get this. Like Amy is like a, you know, >> what a mean part of yourself to be. >> Very mean. Very mean. That's a that's a person we're trying to um to not invite to the dinner party anymore. But um so I I called him. I was like, "Hey, would love to talk to you." He was on a plane. >> And he landed. He's like, "Uh" I was like, "Mhm. You want to you want to tell me what's going on cuz it would have been really nice for you to tell me and not Amy to tell me that I wasn't getting this job." And he's like, "No, no, no. Back up. We changed the boss. It's a woman and Amy's playing the boss." And I was like, "You Oh my god. Like we might be working together." Yes. It kind of went from oh no to oh my god, we might be the two women on the show. >> Yes. And I still wasn't cast because I still had to do a bunch of chemistry reads after that. But but that became, you know, this huge possibility of like my life being the best from the worst to the best. >> God, I'm sweating even thinking about that. He wasn't they had they just hadn't decided things and and they they were trying to build around you I think is what happened around that character. So I think they had just done that and I think you wanted to tell me as soon as possible because we were so close >> which was the right instinct and Mike decided to get on a plane which was his instinct >> and he just flew for hours. He just went to different cities and he never got off the plane. And that's what exacts do. That's what a powerful person does is they get on the plane. >> They just get on as many planes as possible. 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NBC should have been like, "We got to get Is there any Indian guy that's done more acting?" >> A lot of people don't know you were the first person hired for Parks. >> Uh yeah, I met with them. And >> what was that meeting like? Do you remember it? >> Well, it was so mysterious what they were up to. I had a meeting with them and I told them, "I don't know what you're doing, but whatever it is, that would be a dream job." And um and you know this was like when The Office was on and Mike and Greg were both involved in that and that was you know my favorite show like that on the air and and so I told him whatever you're up to let me know. And then of course >> you know when it all came together with you and Rashidita and everything and and >> well I'm kind of learning when I was talking to Plaza when Plaza was here she was uh talking about like her meeting with them too and >> yeah very famous stories. Yeah. Yeah. >> I know. And it's kind of funny. I kind of forgot the Avengers Assemble feeling of those guys going out and and getting people and bringing them in and and talking about like we're going to do something very cool. I mean, it it was it didn't even feel like there was a ton of auditioning. It was more just them picking people that they thought was funny. not only funny and I I feel like all of us whenever we see each other do interviews kind of say this kind of stuff at nauseium but it's so true but also just the best people I've ever met in my life. >> Yeah. >> Like really I cannot believe it cuz we've all done other stuff and you know not everybody's you know look we've all done other stuff. I don't talk about everything the way I talk about parts. you know, you do some things and some people different energy, not necessarily mean or bad, but just something like we all just clicked and there was a vibe that worked with all of us and and and just to pay respect to you and Mike, you know, when I did Master None with Allan and as I become a director, I I you know, what I learned from you and Mike in terms of how to lead um I mean, I can't thank you enough. It was the the best role model I could ever have. sees. Let me see if you can guess how many times how many episodes of Parks you did. Do you do you would you know to guess? >> I would say between seven and 13. >> Yeah, 10. >> 10. Okay. Between seven and 13. That was my It's kind of right between That's amazing. But it was such a huge impact on my life. Like it's still the thing I get most recognized for. >> Really? >> Yes. >> And I just remember Well, first of all, you were the most incredible number one on a call sheet because you had dance parties at lunch every day and anybody that walked on that like set just was filled with such confidence and such joy, which is I had the greatest time on that show. I have such I don't have the greatest that's where we kind of fell in love >> but that is re that's really Katherine where we I think actually met my first kind of like real memory is in the trailer of parks and wreck and >> we used to Katherine is talking about dance parties and we used to do a thing where just like after lunch we would play three songs best >> the great Autumn Butler our makeup artist >> had great taste in music and we would just kind of dance around for two or three songs. >> Yeah. the best. >> I think for me, a way to honestly just keep my energy up. >> Yeah. >> But it became a way to meet people in the trailer. And I remember two things I loved about you right away. How much you love to laugh. People that know you know that like you you laugh. If someone's going to break in a scene, it's this professional over here. >> You know you I don't Do you think you break a lot? >> I have to be really serious in my mind. Like if I have because if it starts to happen it is tears. >> Yeah. >> And mucus. >> But you I have seen you in bloopers and you're hanging in. >> Yeah. I do hang in. >> You hang in. >> I do. Yeah. >> You in fact go in harder. I think when people are >> I have to I know it's a survival technique. I just have to dig in a little bit. I do. I go harder. >> I feel like every time I've done a scene with you, you are so good at improvising. In fact, like a lot of your character on Parks and Rec, Jen Barkley's moments were improvised. >> Were they really? >> Well, my one of the favorites, one of one of Tik Tok and memes and gifts and show his poncho. >> Poncho was >> So, let's talk about what happened for people that have never seen that. What What is it? What? Tell us what that scene was. >> Well, I went to Ben and Leslie's house. Um, I'm speaking as Jen Barkley, my character. I'm the first person now. >> Well, for people that aren't watching, she just transformed. just transform. >> Her eyes turned dark and she's a completely different person. >> A lot more hairspray. I went to their house. They have children. Uh I am not into children at all. I wore a plastic poncho so that I wouldn't get any sticky fingers or crap all over me. And at some point the kids rush by with paint, nail me with the paint. And it's some take just to make you guys laugh. I DON'T EVEN DID NOT HAVE ANY IDEA it was going to be any. I just swung my arms open. I went poncho poncho. And that really has become >> it has it's like Batman's cape. >> I mean, >> oh that was the best. Like I just wanting to make you guys laugh and just having so the the energy is so loose. So I like it's funny you say that improvising again. I can do it if I know who I am and like the given circumstances and like that I feel like I feel really free in that department. But just >> well, you know how like we we were on set a lot and I would watch you work and I would say the same thing about Adam and I wonder too if it's because of your both of your training, but I would watch the way you two worked and you would have a moment where we you'd stay really really loose and but just right before the scene and I can think of a couple scenes the great scene >> where Jen Barkley is telling Leslie no basically you know you have to start. >> Oh, >> you have to start thinking bigger, which is a huge moment in the show. I love the writing in that scene. Oh my god, that scene. >> Mike Sher and the writers like I just love how they slowly took care of Leslie and they sent people in >> to give her these messages >> and Jen Barkley is just this like Gen X. >> Yes. >> Um ballbuster. >> Yes. >> Who who kind of sees something that Leslie doesn't. Anyway, in that moment when you're giving that speech, I remember very clearly right before the scene, you just took a moment and I think we joked about it later because I was like it was like watching it was watching a a real actor. >> Oh god. >> You were on Parks and Wreck. You only did five episodes. Do you know that? >> I know. >> Um but you played a character that stood the test of time. I mean I mean if only if only we had Bobby Newport. Just a a guy who wants to be liked. >> Yeah. >> And who >> I know. If only, right? >> I mean Bobby at the time >> means well just doesn't quite grasp any of it. >> He wants to go to the afterparty. >> Yeah. >> Bobby Newport played by you was the like the rich son of the um Swedom's family. the the family, the Newports that owned the big factory in the fictional town of Panee that Parks and Wreck took place and Bobby Newport ran against Leslie and it was like what Bobby had that Leslie could never get was that Gwiz like I can't believe I fell into this like I just want to have a good time you guys. >> Yeah, I think that's even a line that that's how Bobby feels about abortion, isn't it? >> Oh yeah, right. What did he say about abortion? I guess my thoughts on abortion are just like want everybody to just have have a good time. >> Just want everybody to have a good time. I mean, come on, guys. >> What? >> And Bobby kept getting flustered by Leslie wanting it cuz he wants it. Like there's that great scene where he's like, "Can you just drop out of the race cuz I want it." >> Yeah. Yeah. >> I want it. >> I want it. Come on. Please. You could do it. Just do it. Come on. >> And people are like, I don't I love the guy. He's great and he doesn't seem to want it. >> Yeah. And he doesn't know anything. But that neither do I. >> That's, you know, >> you're Leslie No is capable and great for that job. Bobby Newport is not. >> No. And Bobby was I think was thinking like maybe I'll just get it and then Leslie you can do it. >> Yeah. How about that? That's a good compromise. >> What do What are your memories of doing that character was such a funny character. You were so great. >> Thank you Amy. My memories of that were I can't believe I get to work with my favorite people in the world. You and Adam and Catherine, Rashida and like it was like this is the dream. I mean this is the you know I remember when you were talking to Tina on the very first episode you did where you were saying you feel like the how the great thing that can happen if you are able to sustain enough of a career >> that you you can get to a point where you work with your friends or you get to work with people you really like >> because it's not work it's just it's it's just the best and I mean it was such a fun character obviously and the show is so great and you're so great in it. Um, it was it was it was just >> it was a dream. It was a dream and you know and I was >> uh I loved it. I loved every second of it. I loved >> hanging out with all you guys. >> So fun. >> It was really fun. >> It was. And that and it was those scenes were so funny. Like he got You got to do the stupidest talk about fun. Stupid. It's the stupidest stuff. >> Yeah. Well, there's nothing um there's nothing funnier to me than unearned confidence. >> Yeah. >> Like just >> somebody feels like they you know it's like I've got it figured out and it's like no you don't. Yeah. >> Um but but if it's >> and if it's if it's like nice unear like if it's f it's really funny if it's not nice unearned confidence. But uh that was the thing of like he had a lot of kind of unearned confidence, but he had he was just dumb. >> Yeah. He wanted to have a good time though. But he's a nice he he was sweet. >> He was sweet. >> And that and and that was and that was a fun that was kind of that's a fun thing to get to play. It's a fun kind of character to get to play. >> Would you would we describe him as like guess? Is that the word? >> Yeah, I think that's a good way to do it. Yeah, there's Yeah, >> I know that word. That's a really good, by the way. Of course you do. >> [ __ ] great word. >> Anyway, is a [ __ ] great word. >> [ __ ] great word. >> God damn. >> We meet on the set of Parks and Wreck. And for people that don't know, like you had a crazy week when you got hired. >> You got like three jobs that same week. What happened that week you were hired on Parks? So I basically I was like trying to get a part in funny people the Jud Appatile movie with Seth Rogan and Adam Sandler >> and I went through kind of this whole vetting process in New York and then enough where Allison Jones who cast that movie and Parks and Wreck was called me and was like all right like you made it to the chemistry read stage so you have to come out to LA and read with Seth and see if you get the part basically. Um, and so but I didn't really have an agent or anything and I kind of had to like pay my way, you know, to go out there. So it was like a little bit janky, but I got myself out there um to do that. And then while I was out in LA for that week to do the funny people thing, Allison was like, "How would I send you on some other things? Like how do you feel about that?" And so yeah, so one of them was she wanted me to go meet Mike Sher and Greg Daniels who at the time were shooting on the office and they were shooting they were on the set of the office. So she sent me to the set of the office >> and um and I and I didn't even I guess at that time I didn't realize like I didn't think like oh I could these meetings >> will get me a job. I mean, I think it's one of the things about being young that's kind of nice is you're not really aware what you're actually like what's at stake. >> No, definitely not that. I mean, if it was an audition, obviously I know like all right, I'm going to get the part or not. But like >> general meetings, I didn't really get the vibe of that. >> How old were you then? >> I was 24 23 23 maybe. Um, but so then I went to the set of the office and I was so starruck. I see in my horse eye BJ Novak and and Mindy Kaling walked by and I was like oh my god I was like they're in the show or whatever and Mike Sher is like hello >> and he's like at his desk like and I'm like what? And then I just met him for like he describes it. He really embellishes this story. I think >> he loves this story. >> He loves it but he's like and then I met the weirdest person. I'm like, >> there's no bigger fan of Aubrey Plaza than Mike Sher. >> Yeah, right. Um, >> he loves it though because I think like I mean it just speaks to honestly the fact that you've always been yourself confidently yourself and you don't have a vibe of like you don't you are the opposite of a pick me as the kids would say like you you do not have that vibe and and that draws people in and I think he was like who is this person? Yeah. >> Who seems mad at me while I try to give her a job? >> Yeah. Literally. And why are you wearing jean shorts in a general meeting? >> Like ripped jean shorts. >> And you were like, I didn't know what this was. >> No. And then I got a phone call and they were like, you're on a TV show. I'm like, what? No. But then >> which one? What? What? You're like The Office. >> Yeah. I literally probably said that. I didn't know what was going on. And then they were like, "Um, actually, you got the part, but actually you have to audition to play yourself. >> You don't have to name names, but I wonder who else was up to play you." >> I don't think that anyone. >> Oh, right. It was just one person. >> I think they just made me do it like for the network or something. I think I found out later. I mean, maybe not. I don't know. It was probably like, you know. >> Yeah. >> It was you, Sharon Stone, and Gina Gers. Yeah. So you get the part, we're on the set and then like I mean we could do a whole obviously we could do a whole episode about our experiences there and there are so like I mean I don't the best thing about our relationship I feel like is I don't like all like a lot of I think longl lasting relationships is you don't always like remember how you met. Like >> I just remember like just I just have this vision of you being next to me on the set of that show and me being like welcome like you know Leslie was supposed to be like welcoming >> April and April was supposed to be like what am I doing here and Amy was welcoming Aubrey and Aubrey was like what am I doing here? >> Truly. Yeah. >> I mean I I remember when we first met and it I think I told you this story. It was um the promos that we shot. >> That's right. >> And which was weird because we hadn't shot the show yet. >> And the rest of the cast hadn't even been cast yet. I think at that point it was just like Aziz, me, you. >> Yeah. >> Maybe another. Yeah. I don't think we had Nick yet or >> I don't think so. But they had me and I was there like physically there. So they shot this promo of us on a swing set >> and that's when I met you like officially for the first time and I think I was literally on a swing like a child like and I was like and I was like just don't make any sudden movements. >> Um and swinging >> except swinging and then you which is kind of good cuz swinging is really good sematically >> for me like I like um but then yeah you came over and we were both just swinging like little babies. That's how we met >> on a swing. We met on a playground which is kind of nice. >> Really nice. And it feels like the show was that like it was it felt like a true like playground space. It really was like we I mean I loved and love working with you. I love playing with you. I love acting with you. >> I love you as an actor. I love you as a person. I love your >> acting, Plazi. You know how good I think you are. >> I love playing with you. And I feel like our dynamic, well, like the arc of of um in many ways like April had the biggest growth in the show. She goes from truly not wanting to be where she is to like, you know, ending the show like with some kind of purpose and a a love in her life and like some also like a she kind of stands up for what she doesn't want to do, which is a big part of your 20s. Like, >> but um when you started that character, when you started her, did you have any idea where you thought it would go? Now, did you have any, you know, did you did you see Yeah. >> No, I just No, I think I just once I realized like, oh, what's so fun about this character is that like >> it's a game of not showing anyone that I really care. >> Yes. And like once I locked into that, it was a real like it felt like there was no limit to like the growth or like what could happen because >> if you hint that there's something else going on. It's like you can kind of >> play with that and also in different ways with every different character. So I feel like maybe on an unconscious level, but >> I felt like oh there's so much to play with even though it feels really subtle and simple. Yeah, that was her secret is she cared but she pretended she didn't. And so when it would pop out, it was so satisfying. >> Yeah, >> it was so funny and good. And the ways in which she tried to keep >> those things hidden were so funny. >> Yeah. >> And then I think just the Andy April thing was such an organic like I had no idea that was going to become a thing until that one episode. >> So let's talk about that. So Andy uh pray uh played by Chris Pratt. Um, and you um, April and Andy had an episode where a bunch of us were off like doing the like a harvest. We're at the harvest festival. We're at some festival. >> I don't know where you guys were. >> We were doing something together. And >> you were like camping or something. >> Oh, maybe. Oh, yeah. I don't know. >> And so they put you guys in the office and just said like, "Let's see what happens to these two characters when they hang out." >> Yeah. And basically the chemistry that those characters had was the building block for why they eventually became like the the real romantic love story of the show other than Leslie and Anne. >> Yeah. >> Cuz Anne doesn't deserve >> Don't talk about Ann. >> Sorry. >> But what do you remember of that day? I have a v well Greg Daniels directed the episode which I I will always remember because he was so delighted like he had such a like little kid energy and he was so he just was like very willing to like let's just try things and >> we had a whole day where we were just playing it. It was like kind of like what you said like the office like the bull room or bullpen the bullpen. >> Um the bull room the bullpen like became a playground and I I just remember >> I have an image of like us sitting under the table. We were like under that main table for a while. Like I don't even know what we were doing down there. >> Um but we were under there and I just remember >> I don't know. It just felt it was so fun. It just felt like I remember before then there was I think it was like the finale of the maybe the first season or >> I don't remember what season, but >> there was a very subtle moment where we're all in a group. We're in a circle and um Andy's like saying something about his band or he's like something about like I think like this band name is cool or whatever and everyone else is like no and April's and I was just like I like it and it was like an improvised thing but I do you remember that where where I remember being like and then I remember >> like knocking on Mike Shur's like door and being like listen I was like April loves Andy and April thinks Andy is cool because he's so not cool that he's cool. Do you understand? And Mike was like, "Get out of here." And I was like, "You I was like, "You better listen to me." Um, >> no, you did. You knocked on. >> It was like I Yeah, it was it was more like just the little conversation. that was it was like a it was like a layer to that character because you become his advocate like and that's the part of April that like is like another interesting layer is like again she acts like nothing matters and she's um you know completely disaffected but she's actually very fiercely loyal. >> Yeah. >> And very um and like sticks up for people she believes in which I think is a charact character trait of you too. Like you're very you're a very loyal friend. >> Yeah. you're a really really protective friend. Um, and you really stick up for people who you love. And that side of it was so great because then we got to see her like manage him, care about the band, >> see potential for him that he didn't see in himself. >> Mhm. >> And he was just like, I can't believe how lucky I am. >> And I remember when the writers had you guys get married, we were all like, what? Like >> I know that was insane. That was Do you What do you remember of that day shooting it? >> We There was a lot of crying. You cried. >> I mean, >> I love a wedding. >> You c I remember you like cried in the kitchen and then you were like crying like off camera and I was like, "Stop." >> You cried that much. >> Yes, you did. You like literally cried all day. It was so weird. >> I was so happy you were in love. >> You were like crying all day. There was like I was like, >> "I'm not crying all day." >> I was like, "We're not even the camera." I was like, "We're in my trailer. Like, why are you doing this?" And you were like, "How do you feel?" I'm like, >> "Oh my god, no idea. >> I'm ordering a salad for lunch. Like, this is my job." >> I was crying cuz you were crying so hard and I was worried that we weren't going to get the shot. I was crying cuz I was sad at how much you were crying. >> I don't think so. >> I think that you thought it was real and >> Yeah. I I assumed it was legally binding. Yeah. >> But it was so good. And the And the And the vows were so funny. >> Yeah. >> And the wedding was so stupid. >> Okay. I mean, I guess like when do you wa have you rewatched Parks and Wreck? >> Nope. >> What? I'm finding this out. Okay. >> I wouldn't even know how. >> Shut up. >> Okay. Okay. >> You ask me how >> you've never wa the big giant screen that you watch your movies on. >> How does it workoop these days? I wouldn't >> and go to go to >> go to what? Type in where the search is. >> How? Someone tell me. >> Peacock. >> No. >> Yes. Yes. Go there or go to iTunes. >> I wish I knew how. >> Just Just pick up your controller and just wreck into it and it'll come up. >> Okay. It's probably not the right one. >> Go to your DVDs. You love your DVDs. >> I wish I had one right now. >> Um, but so you've never rewatched it? >> No. >> I don't know what's wrong with you guys. I >> if it comes on in a hotel room, I literally throw something. I throw it. >> Adam says I will literally break. >> Adam says the watching the show makes him sad. >> Nick has told me he has not rewatched it. >> Liar. He jerks off to it every night. >> You know, he sits there and like touches himself. >> You're so right. He's got it on right now. >> Nick. Nick. >> Tammy. >> You're right. He does watch it for Tammy. >> His real life Megan Mali. >> They get off on that. They watch it together. >> They watch. You're so right. They watch it together and they and then they just slap each other in the face. >> They're disgusting. >> They're to so disgusting. Nick, I know you're listening. You're not fooling anybody. Two more things about parks. Uh what? We had so many fun guest stars come in and like you connected with some of them in interesting ways. >> I don't know if you remember this, but do you remember when Chris Bosch was on the show, the basketball player? Chris Bosch. He was a Miami Heat player. >> Oh, yes. >> And he was in like had like different beat basketball like Roy um >> Yeah. We had Roy Yes. Yeah. Chris Bosch. Yes. Chris He was with like Aziz and um was he like John Ralph. >> Yeah. Entertainment 720. >> Yeah. But like I don't know if you know the story. It was a really quick story but it was so stupid. But I was a really big Chris Bosch fan. So like I was like oh my god like I can't believe he's coming. like this is insane. I was like, I want to play a prank on him. >> Do you know this? No. And so he had to go through hair and makeup, but you know, he I think had very little hair and you know, whatever. Um didn't need makeup cuz he's a guy or whatever. >> Um but you know how they always put them through the works anyway. So I was like, I'm going to pretend to be the hair stylist >> and I think it was it Terry maybe was in there and you know how she had those glasses or whatever. So I was like, Terry, give me your glasses or I can't remember whatever. And I'm thinking like this is gonna be hilarious because it's gonna be me and he'll be like, "Haha, it's you." Um, so I like pretend to be Terry. I'm like at her station >> and then he goes through like makeup first and they're like, "You look good." You know, a little powder and you're good. And then he like went and he was like, "Yeah, yeah, thanks a lot." And then he sat down in my chair and I was like, "Well," and I looked and I was like, "What are we going to do today?" And I was like doing like a dumb thing and he didn't make any eye contact with me. He was just looking down and he was so sweet. But he didn't make eye contact. He was just like, "Yeah, whatever you think." >> Oh no. And you were like, >> and I was like, "Well, I think that you're looking pretty good, sir." And he'd be like, "Yeah, I'm so I'm good. All right." And I'd be like, "Well, you're not that good." And then it was like I just kept it going. And someone videotaped it. And it was >> so awkward. didn't recognize me at all. Didn't know who I was. Don't think he ever knew who I was. Not once. >> Chris Bosch isn't going to be watching the show before he comes and does. He's too busy. >> I was. He thought I was uh >> he thought you were a hair person >> and like the PA are like, "We really need him on set." I'm like, "WELL, HE'S ALMOST DONE IN MY department of hair." And then basically it just died >> and he never he never nope. >> Well, Chris is probably listening so now you know. >> Never not once. >> Did you even work with him on set that day? Never saw him again. Literally never saw him again ever in my life. >> Every single day someone tells me Parks got them through the pandemic. And I heard you mention it on a previous episode. >> Every single day people say, "I watched it during co I watch it with my kid. My kids going through a hard time. I like to watch it at night because I get I have a lot of anxiety." Like I I cannot believe the way that that show continues to be a a medicine for people. It's >> It's so nice. Isn't that nice? >> And Ben and Lesie. >> I know. I know. >> We just We Do you remember we were texting just a couple months ago and just kind of commented on how nice they are? >> They're so nice. They're so much nicer than us. >> So much nicer. >> And they're so nice to each other. >> I know. And every every woman deserves a Ben. Every woman deserves a partner like Ben who roots for you and like looks at you and is just like that's my gal. Like everyone deserves that kind of relationship. >> Lesie from the word go loved Ben. >> Oh beyond. >> Like I now looking back it's like they were just in love with each other immediately. And their arc was such so juicy. The writers, Mike and the writers, because they meet and they're just like, >> "Well, what's your deal?" >> Oh, yeah. It was like, >> and then and then they like each other, but then they can't >> THEY CAN'T BE TOGETHER. >> THEY CAN'T BE TOGETHER. She's like, "Really?" I mean, they probably could have been together. >> I know. It didn't matter, but >> And then they was like, "This is totally fake and whatever, but we just need to have Rob care about you two being together." And it worked. And it was like made it even hotter. >> Ben was like, "I want you." Like Ben kept putting Leslie's, you know what it is? >> They kept putting each other's needs over their own. They cared about what the other one needed and they respected each other. Like they really liked what the other one did. >> And it was the best thing about that relationship is how um you know, with the exception of Ann, who is >> of course >> Leslie's number one. Um >> of course, >> uh >> I've accepted that. >> Yeah. uh is the way that they um they just rooted for each other. >> Yes, >> they really rooted for each other. >> I I haven't seen a ton of It makes me sad to watch the show cuz I miss it. >> Why did you say that? Why does it make you sad? >> Because I I miss it. I like you were saying like we really appreciated being there every day and it was so fun. And also just sort of walking in that building and then suddenly you're there and the hallways and the >> Yeah, >> it was so fun. And the people I just loved everybody. >> I think one of the things that was so fun about what we got to do is the camera helped us at least it helped me have my feelings about you know there I I tell people like of course you of course we love Ben. We got to like Ben, we watch Ben watch Leslie and we love Leslie. So like when people love Leslie, we love them. And we got to watch Ben love her >> because the camera w like we got to do so much indirect stuff like we didn't have to face to face all the time. We had feelings, our characters had feelings for each other because of the camera. That's right. >> The even though I mean and it's such a beautiful uh genre that mockumentary because it allows you to just even create space and depth in the shot. People are just not in the same room. >> That's right. And like I remember we always used to say we loved it when there were spy shots through like blinds because it made our acting better. Do you remember that? >> Yes. Do you also remember this thing we used to do where sometimes we would be doing a scene and we'd be like, "Okay, I can't I'm not someone who can predict the future 100%." But I will say it was like a couple times a season. I will say I can say with 100% certainty that neither of us will ever win an award for acting for this scene. like totally >> you would say it sometimes and sometimes you know what let's just I mean and also on the other side I would sometimes say you know and I said this on the podcast like I would say like Adam your acting is so good you'd be like shut up we're in the middle of the scene like because it was like oh my god um I mean but oh yeah I mean that's what I love about working with you and I just feel like before we end like I just want to feed our fans a little bit more which is what Um, what do you think was the most romantic scene between Ben and Lesie? >> Oh, man. It's so sweet. >> I know. But what was the most >> The most romantic? I think >> I think Well, >> there are a couple of nominees. >> Okay. >> But I think >> I think maybe smallest park >> cuz I just heard a little groan. >> I hope it's a good groan. Yeah. Someone just being like I love smallest. >> Me too. >> Nicole Holiff Center the great directseel wrote that >> Chelsea Peretti wrote that episode >> and I remember really like feeling connected shooting that and just being like this is kind of feeling like how special >> it was. Yes. >> Making the show and that was >> Yeah. That was But I don't know what what do you think? >> Well, I have a lot. I I mean, I feel like that was such a big one. I feel like some of the >> I have such a affinity for the beginning beginnings parts of Ben and Leslie because I do think it also just reminded me of like we were, you know, the show was deciding that they were going to love each other, too. >> Yeah. And um I really love this tiny moment when they realize they have they like the same spot when they like to sit under the sunflower mural. >> Well, >> I love that moment >> when I ask you if you know where that mural is and your response is really it's a rewindable moment. >> I love that moment between both of us because and of course Parks then pays it off years later. later >> by sitting underneath it. >> Yep. >> Um I also, you know, when we shot Ben and Leslie's wedding, it was so fun. It was like we were all just sitting there all day goofing around. >> Um and it was so fun. And like >> I think we had real champagne, too. Maybe >> we probably did. >> Yeah, >> we probably did. And then that probably became a problem later in the day. Yeah, probably champagne. Not something to have when you're when you have like a 10-hour workday ahead of you. >> Are you asked all the time if there'll be a more arcs or a reboot or something? >> I always feel like it's it's been it's done. Like it was perfectly done. Like how do you do that? >> Perfectly. Maybe they should do like Muppet Babies. They should do like Parks and Wreck babies. That's right. Like everyone has babies. >> All of us as like that Instagram thing where everyone's >> Oh, yeah. Have you seen that? Yeah. AI babies. They should do AI babies, >> but like a whole series >> Yeah. >> of all of us just in a crib together. >> Yeah. But they should do it like present day where like the politics are really dark. Yep. >> And mean. And so it should be like tiny babies fighting each other. >> They hate each other. It's like apocalyptic political babies. >> And they all like are like, "Oh no, I hate >> I hate you so much. >> I hate you so much. Yay." I mean, >> yay. I hate you. because we made the show in an era where public service was encouraged and valued, >> right? >> And funded. >> Yes. >> It was or I mean, you know, I'm sure it wasn't as funded as much as it should have been, but it was funded at least. >> Um it's an entirely different I know >> tone to American life. >> You know, when you have that feeling sometimes like you wish you could go back to high school and enjoy it, >> right? >> That's how it felt like we actually got to do it in real time. >> Yeah. because it was genuinely goofy and funny. >> Yeah. >> Like the best jokes. Uh >> what is your what is your one of your favorite what is one of the favorite funny scenes you got to do? So many >> so many. I mean I always think of you guys on the on on the ice at the ice skating rink with Gloria Stefon. >> Yeah. >> I mean that is I remember at the table read that was we couldn't stop laughing because it was so funny. >> Yeah. Mike Scully wrote that episode and >> on Mike Skully. >> We got to uh walk across that ice and I remember just thinking this is so fun. Oh my god, what a fun job. I wasn't even in that scene. >> Yeah, that's right. That's right. Sorry. We should probably just photoshop. >> We should put me in that scene. That's why I brought it up. I feel like it would I I deserve it. >> Okay, are you guys ready to watch it? >> Yeah. >> Okay, here we go. >> Yes. really exciting. >> Amy, are you gonna play it FROM IT? >> I'm supposed TO GO. >> You've been listening to Good Hang. The executive producers for this show are Bill Simmons, Jenna Weiss Berman, and me, Amy Polar. The show is produced by The Ringer and Paperkite. For the ringer, production by Jack Wilson, Cat Spalain, Kaia McMullen, and Alia Xanerys. For Paperkite, production by Sam Green, Joel Levelvel, and Jenna Weiss Berman. Original music by Amy Miles. really good. Hey

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