'You're lying!' Keith Boykin scolds Rep. Byron Donalds

Donald Trump taps into American carnage as voting gets underway across the country. And is he getting policy ideas from a B-list Hollywood movie? Well, that's because what he is saying sounds like it was ripped from the pages of The Purge. It's a movie franchise, but here it is. Business, right? They don't pay rent. The dead, the city doesn't have the whole. It's a chain of events. It's so bad. One rough hour, and I mean real rough. The word will get out and it will end immediately and immediately. You know, one day of whatever you want. I guess it is a literal movie plot, but real life policy? Well, it's not policy. And this is red meat for the base because they don't ask questions about, well, how would you do this and how would this work? It's just red, red meat. And I think it works for the base. But, it actually it reminds me of the Purge first, and then it reminded me more of The Hunger Games, where the the ruling class puts a bunch of people together every year and says, you guys kill each other to show, control and instill fear in an electorate and the citizenry. If we're comparing movies, but this is real life, and this is the kind of thing that turns off the people he needs to win. People in swing states who are undecided, who want to hear policy solutions, not stuff like this. I mean, but in all seriousness, Congressman, I mean, is he suggesting that cops can do whatever they want for a day and that will actually solve the problem? No, he's not. And then even the clip you just played, was it five seconds out of for Donald Trump in our speech? I think a lot of times people say, oh, well, he said this for five seconds. Yes. He says he says things that are unscripted. He goes off the cuff, off the cuff. He's not serious. There's no policy behind that. But I think where the American people truly are at least want to hear what somebody is thinking. Full throated versus Kamala Harris, who was completely scripted, like badly scripted. There's nothing coming off the policy then. If it's not that, then what is actually the solution? He wants to make sure that police are supported. So they're upholding the law in every city in our country. I was in, Duane Reade last night here in New York, just trying to get razorblades so I can get a fresh shave for today. I had to press the button for the for the attendant to come to open up the case just so I can get a pack of razorblades. That's what's going on in every major city of America. Americans are fed up with that kind of stuff. It happens because you do have a dereliction of support for law enforcement in too many cities in America. And so there's a major angst going on amongst the American people. Donald Trump said a comment for five seconds. That's not setting policy. That's where I'm feeling that some of the American people, Donald Trump, has a history of saying inflammatory things. It's not just those five seconds, Congressman, and you know that he has a history that goes back from the time when he first ran for office, and he's talked about telling people in his rallies to knock the crap out of him. He had a history. Even when I was working here at CNN, he was telling people how CNN is the enemy of the people. You know what? A guy named Cesar Sykes and pipe bombs to this building and up to the other building that CNN used to be in and tried to kill people. Donald Trump says things that get people hurt when he talked about liberating Michigan. What happened? Gretchen Whitmer, the governor of Michigan, they tried to kidnap her. There's a plot to try to kidnap her every time he says something. It's just five seconds. Inflammatory statements like that. What happened when we have January 6th is because Donald Trump opened his big mouth and wouldn't shut up. And I wish at some point, Congressman, you would at least have the courage to stand up to your to your dear leader and tell him what he's doing wrong. Are we going to apologize now about the right not just around jobs for him? We're going to talk about the rhetoric directed at Donald Trump, because we do realize that he's been tried to kill. Are you guys are you going to continue to to try to take his life? So you're not going to answer what I just said? Hang on one second. Let's talk about that. Let's actually talk about rhetoric, because here's what Trump supporters have been saying. People hear this violent, dangerous rhetoric and we're going to have a copycat. It's coming. And, it's just unfortunate somebody is going to get killed. I'd say that's pretty strong evidence that the left needs to tone down the rhetoric and needs to cut this crap out. Somebody is going to get hurt by it. It works when we see the liberal elite literally trying to take out a political opponent. Now, do they cause it? Absolutely. They contribute to it. They're complicit with it because of their words. So according to those, gentlemen, they're saying that Trump is a threat to democracy is violent rhetoric. But Trump saying let's just have one really violent day. That is not violent rhetoric. No, no, he didn't say one violent day. That's what he said. Well, let's let's be honest about what he actually said. Late again. Trump again and again because he didn't even say that. But go ahead. Can we play it again? I want to hear. All these thoughts go out of business, right? They don't pay rent. The city doesn't have the whole it's a chain of events. It's so bad. One rough hour and I mean real rough. The word will get out and it will end immediately and immediately. And now how is that not violent rhetoric? We have to acknowledge the reality going on in every city in America. Not answering questions, mask, not answering the question that is answering the question how is reality in America? Hold on Keith, the reality in America is that crime is massively up and crime is not massive. Yes, that's what you want. You're like, you're lying. We already know that there is. I just released data this week. The crime is going down. You already know that. Oh my God, why do you have you. Why do you let this man lying next? I'm telling you that that's not right. You may not realize. You may not know why you're lying. Because you're lying to the American people. So I want to be respectful of what you're trying to say. On a second, you would just let me talk. I will explain exactly what you want me to explain. We have the data. The FBI literally put out data today showing that crime is down. This year for the first six months of the year. But look at the trend line. Okay? Crime is down in all these different categories. And then there is a trend line that shows that crime is going down. So why why do you continue to say that? I do think though and in some I'll let you get in. But I do want the cargo ships, right. If you look at crime rates in the United States, since the pandemic to this current point, this period in time crime is up. Okay. Here over the over the years is up in crime. You're right. Now I'm a crime is on its way down. It has not returned to pre-pandemic levels yet, but it is trending down. Well, I'm looking at your chart right now. 2021 is when Joe Biden and Kamala Harris came into office. Look at that spike up in violent crime. Well, Donald Trump on the scene, but this is where it went after 2021. Abby, this is important. This is important. But we know this is really important. Private sector crime is going down. And it's put the chart back up put it back a crime that look at you look at where it's going 2021. This is when Joe Biden and Kamala Harris came into office in 2021 okay. But no one is up for violent crime in the United States of America. And, you know, that is an empirical fact. I'm not. You're something I saw for the first time you saw the chart. I'm not going to sit here and like, I'm like, what? I'm what I want to know. Wait, wait one second. Because what does this tell silly? Hold on. It's not silly when people have for Congress. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. Please go ahead. Of course we have to deal in facts here, okay? It's it's it's clear as day the FBI put out statistics for the first half of this year. Yeah, the numbers the trend lines are going down in all of those different categories. Murders, rapes, robberies, property crime, aggravated assault. For 2023, the trend line is going down. If you don't believe the FBI, independent people who look at these numbers say the same thing. There was a spike in crime during the pandemic. That is true. Nobody's disputing that. But but the reality is, is that crime is going down. You don't have to you don't have to twist the facts to make the case that people feel unsafe. Just say people feel safe. I'm not even twisting the facts. You put up a chart. I just looked at the chart myself. The bottom line was from 2021. Well, what happened in 2021? Joe Biden and Kamala Harris came into office. This is when Democrat politicians were all the rage for defund the police. This had nothing to do with that. Can I finish my point, Mr. Speaker? No, no, you can't really did you can't you monopolize this entire conversation? For the most part? I yelled at the table that evening because you lied. I'm not lying. I'm telling you the truth. You don't want to hear the truth. That's the problem. Put this up there. And the problem is you don't want to hear the truth. I'm saying. I'm saying is some in no way similar to inflict. Because I'm bringing facts. Because you're lying. Because similar to inflation in 2024, the trend lines are coming down slowly. But that ignores the reality of 2021, 2022, 2023. You know what the American people are concerned about which Donald Trump is speaking to massive inflation brought to us by Joe Biden and Kamala. That's true. It is very true. Even Larry Summers said it. You can interrupt all you want, but it's the facts. I was in the house. You were not. I know exactly what you were doing in the house. But again, I'm a move on. I'm not finished here. You have massive inflation created by Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. Who the on the same chart you just put up 2021 through 2023. Crime rates going up and then slowly tapering off in 2024. And then we're supposed to sit here and act like, oh, happy days are here again, because the trend lines are going down. The trend lines over the last four years are massively up. That's what Donald Trump is speaking to. That's what the American people see, serious issues about what's going on. And I will say this. The trend lines are not just going down, but the crime is is going back to very close to what it was before the pandemic.

Democratic strategist Keith Boykin and Rep. Byron Donalds (R-FL) get into a heated debate about violent crime statistics during the Biden administration. #CNN #News Want to stay up to date on the day’s top stories? Sign up for CNN’s 5 Things newsletter, and we’ll give you the 5 biggest stories you need to know, videos people are watching, and more! Sign up here: https://www.cnn.com/newsletters/5-things?source=nl-acq_social_youtubedesc&utm_source=nl-acq_social_youtubedesc