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Analysis Summary

40% Low Influence
mildmoderatesevere

“Be aware of how the creator uses 'vulnerability'—such as discussing hospital appointments and exhaustion—to preemptively soften criticism and make her specific interpretation of the drama feel more authoritative and 'earned.'”

Transparency Mostly Transparent
Primary technique

Parasocial leveraging

Leveraging the one-sided emotional bond you form with creators you watch regularly. Because you feel like you "know" them, their opinions carry the weight of a friend's advice rather than a stranger's. Creators can monetize this by blurring genuine sharing with paid promotion.

Horton & Wohl's parasocial interaction theory (1956); Reinikainen et al. (2020)

Human Detected
98%

Signals

The content exhibits clear signs of human authorship through its conversational tone, personal anecdotes, and specific references to the creator's own experiences and previous work. The presence of natural speech disfluencies and strong personal opinions further confirms it is not an AI-generated or automated production.

Natural Speech Patterns The transcript includes filler words ('um', 'kind of like'), personal anecdotes ('waking up at 4:00 a.m.'), and colloquialisms ('[ __ ] ass comments', 'bro').
Personal Voice and Perspective The creator references their own previous video ('part one'), their specific channel standards, and direct interactions with the subjects (DMs from OnlyJayus).
Complex Narrative Structure The video follows a deep-dive commentary format with specific timestamps for corrections and life updates, typical of independent video essayists.

Worth Noting

Positive elements

  • This video provides a rare example of a commentary creator publicly correcting a specific factual error and explaining the nuance between 'ghostwriting' and 'collaborative editing' in influencer apologies.

Be Aware

Cautionary elements

  • The use of 'labor signaling' (mentioning staying up until 2 AM and hospital visits) functions as a 'credibility shield' that makes the viewer feel guilty for questioning the creator's objectivity.

Influence Dimensions

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Analyzed March 23, 2026 at 20:38 UTC Model google/gemini-3-flash-preview-20251217
Transcript

I just wanted to say that my experience with Maddie when I was 17 years old was very inappropriate and very weird behavior coming from somebody who was 20 years old. >> So yes, while Bella and I were in a relationship, I kissed someone else. I'm >> wondering why a 14-year-old would have a 20-year-old reading through the text, it's like, why is this flirty? Why do you continue to talk to them? >> Matty comes across as a more reliable narrator. Like regardless of which side you're on, the way that Matty speaks to the camera, I think instinctively makes you believe the more. >> I'm going to just leave this here in case you guys need it. I feel like it's really helpful to be able to identify like manipulation tactics being used against you. This one is Darvo. >> There's a very serious situation that I've been meaning to address. Um, and I just needed to gather myself in all my stuff so that I could lay it out. Um, this is about Maddie. And so I'm just going to kind of start from the top and give you guys my whole side of things. >> I am so sick of seeing these [ __ ] ass comments, bro. Oh, I think both of them are bad. They're both wrong, JUST ON DIFFERENT THINGS. ONE was minorly problematic in 2020 Tik Tok and the other one's [ __ ] with minors. >> Am I shocked that people want to dismiss Maddie for hooking up with minors? No. No. No. I stopped trusting the judgment of people on Tik Tok after I saw how you woripped Avery Cyrus for cheating with Jojo Seaw. I mean, that alone was unforgivable. Hooking up with minors is obviously so much worse, but I I'm not shocked at all that you forgive that either. Why does the cease and desist have typos? We are aware that that you have been making egregiously harmful defamatory statements. So, it might be egregious. Yeah, it is outstandingly bad. shocking and the opposite of remarkably good. [music] After the first deep dive dropped, something happened that genuinely came out of nowhere. Only JS messaged me on Instagram. The thing is, I expected them to watch my video, but I didn't expect them to DM me. So, waking up at 4:00 a.m. and seeing a DM from them kind of like stopped me in my tracks. I want to be upfront about what that conversation looks like because that is the standard that this channel holds itself to. They were not hostile about it. There were no threats. There were no sharp edges. None of that energy that you might expect from someone who just watched a video about them go up online. They were calm and they had a specific thing that they wanted to address which was the ghostriter narrative and how it had been framed. If you watch part one, you know that story was in there. The version that spread online was that Xander the Empath also known as Alexander had written Bella's 2021 apology on their behalf, which I also said in my last video. Xander confirmed publicly that he helped write it. And once that got out, it became one of the most repeated criticisms of Bella's entire accountability error. The logic behind the backlash made sense on the surface because if the apology itself was not even your own words, what exactly was real about the redemption? But here is what Bella told me and here is what they also laid out in the video that they sent over. The link they shared was their October 2022 YouTube upload. It was a 26-inute video called How I Became the Most Hated Tik Tok Creator. Here they sat down and walked through their side of everything. They also posted that link on my comment section on YouTube in my last video. So, basically in that video, Bella explained what the apology process actually looked like from their end. They wrote the first draft themselves. They said that their management at the time, which was Byron Nation, came back and said that it was too long and needed to go on TikTok rather than YouTube. So Bella rewrote it, sent it to friends for input, sent it back to management, and management sent it back to them again. That cycle repeated a few times over 3 days before they were given the green light to record and post the video. They also addressed the email controversy where they said that they did not have access to their own email and it was their management that did it and that's why they did not see email from other people because they were not making their management money any longer. So their management was slowly dropping them. So because of that, their management did not make their email a priority. That's why they missed other emails from other people because it did not go to their own personal email, if that makes sense. So even though it was advised against me, saying, "Oh, this will blow over." I started writing my apology. They asked for one anyway, like a day later after seeing how viral this was going. So I sent them what I wrote and it was kind of like this, a full YouTube video addressing and apologizing for everything I said. and they said, "No, this is way too long and it needs to be on Tik Tok." So, I rewrote it to shorten it, sent it to some friends and asked for their advice on it, sent it back to Viral Nation, who made me rewrite it, rewrite it again until 3 days later, they finally gave me the okay to record and post. This is where the whole ghost writer narrative comes from. But I want to be very clear when I say that I wrote my apology. I'll admit I was in this privileged position to get help from people on how to go about it, but that's only because I didn't want to mess it up. I don't think there's anything wrong with asking somebody to proofread something before sending it off to millions to listen to. But my apology and my words are my own. Hindsight, I understand that I shouldn't have just followed the direction I was being given by this management and I should have trusted myself from the beginning and because I didn't and instead made a twopart Tik Tok apology full of emotion. The whole thing came off really weird. And that's a choice that I made, a choice that I regret, but I've kind of come to terms with that. I think the reason why I was listening to all the feedback I was getting was because I didn't feel like I was in a place to trust myself. So Bella's version is that the words were always theirs. People read it, people gave notes, people shipped it through a back and forth process, but the apology came from them, not from someone writing on their behalf. And honestly, sitting with that, I can see how both readings of the situation exist at the same time. Because let's be realistic. There's a real difference between handing someone a blank page and saying, "Write me an apology." And sitting down to write something yourself and then having people you trust go through it with you. Those are not the same thing. Even if the end result is a statement that other people had a hand in shaping, but I also get why people felt misled because when Xander came out and said that he helped write it, that nuance just collapsed immediately. The internet landed on ghostritten and that word has stalked for years because it was the more dramatic version and dramatic versions travel faster than complicated ones. I'm not here to, you know, support Bella. I'm just here to tell you their own side. I believe in laying everything out on the table because I always put an effort not to be biased whenever I speak about these cases. So, it's only right that I give Bella's side of the story. That is why I decided to talk about it you guys. Sorry, my cat is just down here. But before I go on, let me introduce myself. Hi guys, my name is Joel and on this channel I speak about whatever I want to speak about. I do deep dives, commentary, literally anything that picks my interest, I speak about it. So if video essays are your cup of tea and if you just want to hear me talk about other topics, kindly like, share, and subscribe if you care, cuz I really do appreciate it. Thank you so so much. And y'all, um, I'm going to give this live update at the end of the video, but today is my hospital appointment day, so I'm going to have the contrast again. And I am so tired. It's currently like 7:30 a.m. and my appointment is for 10:00. So, I'm trying my best to speak so quickly so that I can go to the hospital, cry as much as I can, come back, have a nap because I've been up till I think I was up till 2:00 a.m. because I just wanted to finalize the script and then wake up and start editing. But there will be no video next week cuz I'm already feeling so burnt out. I recorded two videos yesterday. But that being said, let's get straight into this video. So, I want to start off by correcting the record because before I go on, I would love to correct something. And a few of you pointed it out. So, it's only fair that I correct it. In the original script, a text message was quoted as saying, "I cannot wait to take you on a second date when you turn 18." >> I'm sorry. with what was the I can't wait to take you on a second date when you turn 18. A second date? Wait a minute. Wait a minute. I remember Maddie saying I can't wait to take her on a date when she turns 18. A second date? You mean like what you did with Amara? >> So this text message was written allegedly by Matty and that was not accurate. The real message said, "I cannot wait to take you on a date when you turn 18." [music] There was no second date. And that detail really matters because it just suggests that Marty had said, "I cannot wait to take you on a second date when you turned 18." That means the first date was when this person was a minor. The mistake most likely came from Bella's own reaction in their YouTube video. So when they were going through the screenshots, they paused and said, "A second date? Wait a minute." It seemed like in that moment while they were reacting in real time, they read something into the message that was not actually there. And when everything was being compiled later, that added word just carried over, which I can understand because I'm dyslexic. So sometimes like words I don't know if Bella is dyslexic, but sometimes like words just like dance around when I'm reading sometimes. So I can see why maybe they switch the two. But again, it's a small difference on paper, but even if it's a small difference on paper, it's still an error and it carries a lot of meaning, if that makes sense. And due to that, it needs to be corrected. And I myself should have picked it up. I don't know why I didn't. And at the same time, that kind of misread does not automatically mean that someone was inventing details. So when a person has been holding on to screenshots for years and is finally putting them out publicly, emotions are going to run high. You are not calmly reading a grocery list, you are relieving something. When it comes to adrenaline, adrenaline does funny things to your brain and it can make you see what you expect to see. That feels more like agitation than something that is being fabricated. But let's be very clear about something. Removing the word second does not suddenly make the message fine. Because when I was going through my comment section, people thought that that was an excuse to kind of exonerate Marty. I cannot wait to take you on a date when you turn 18 [music] is still unsettling. It's an adult speaking to a minor and directly tying romantic interest to their 18th birthday. And that is not something that is subtle. The sender in this case who is Marty knew the person was underage. They knew that there was a line and instead of creating distance, they expressed anticipation for the moment that that line would disappear. Put it in a different context for a second. Imagine a 20-year-old man texting a 16 or a 17year-old girl, I cannot wait to take you on a date when you turn 18. There would not be endless debate about wording. People would call it predatory immediately. The matter situation just follows the same pattern structurally. An adult knew a minor, stayed in contact, expressed anticipation for when they would legally become an adult. And once that birthday came, the relationship would maybe become public. Whether anything illegal happened before that is a legal question. But ethically, the framework is the same one that people condemn Tiger for. I will expand on this later. The only noticeable difference is gender and sexuality. If we are going to have standard, they cannot shift depending on who is involved. That being said, let's talk about Marty's response. The lies stop here. Now, we get to the part that everyone has been waiting for. On February 22, 2026, Marty Westbrook uploaded a 30inut video to YouTube titled The Life Stop Here. And it was clearly meant to be their definitive on the record response to everything Bella had been putting out across Tik Tok, YouTube, Instagram, etc. throughout February. This was more like a sitdown structured video that was supposed to kind of settle things because I think now it's taken the legal route. Before getting into it, I want to be upfront about how this breakdown is going to go. This is not a pick aside and defend this situation. Where Marty makes a strong point that gets acknowledged. Where something was genuinely addressed and the logic holds up, that will be said clearly. And where the argument has gaps, where things were left untouched, where the framing is doing more work than the actual content, I'm going to call that out, too. The goal here is the same as it always is, which is to go through the information carefully and give you something more useful than a reaction. So, let's actually get into what Marty posted on February 22nd, 2026. So, like I said earlier, Marty uploaded a 13minut YouTube video titled The Light Stop Here, and it was clearly meant to be the Okay, this is my final word on it response to Bella's much longer expose, which I just think again it was a bit surface level. Marty had already said some things on Tik Tok, but this video had a very different vibe right away because like I said, it was more structured. It was more deliberate and it was framed like a formal rebuttal instead of like a quick reaction. They opened by thanking people for listening and for not rushing to a conclusion and then they laid out the basic premise of the video. They said that they were going to take accountability for what they actually did, but they also going to shut down what they call heinous lies. The first big admission in the video is the cheating. Marty confirms that in November 2022, while they were still in a relationship with Bella, they kissed someone else. They call it wrong and said that they are absolutely zero excuses, which is about as direct as you can be about that part. At the same time, Marty sets the stage before the confession for mentioning being at an extremely low point. And that kind of framing just matters because it nudges the audience towards empathy before the accountability even lands. That does not erase the admission, but it does shape how it feels when you hear it. >> Extremely low point in my life in November of 2022, I kissed somebody else. I want to preface this part by saying that Bella has acknowledged me cheating in the past around 3 years ago. So yes, while Bella and I were in a relationship, I kissed someone else. That was wrong and there are absolutely zero excuses for it. >> The first thing worth paying attention to is how Marty chose to define what happened. They described the cheating as a case, one case with an adult at a low point in their life. That is the version that they put on record. But Bella's account goes further than that because Bella alleged that Matty spent time in someone else's hotel room while they were still in a relationship together. Those two descriptions are not the same thing, and the distance between them is not minor. A kiss and a hotel room carry different implications about how far things went, how long it lasted and whether it was an impulsive moment or something much more deliberate. Marty did not address the hotel room claim. They acknowledged a case and they moved on to the next point. And that absence is noticeable once you know Bella's version of events exist. It's not enough to admit to the smaller version of an allegation if a larger version is sitting right next to it because leaving the bigger claim untouched does not make it go away. It just means that the people watching you are just left to decide for themselves which account to believe without ever hearing a direct rebuttal to the more serious one. Hopefully that makes sense. So basically that is a gap in the response and it is one that does a lot of quiet damage to the overall credibility of the video. At least from my observation. After that, Marty leans into what they think is one of the biggest holes in Bella's timeline. One of the most effective points that Marty makes in the entire video is about timing, and it is worth taking seriously rather than just brushing past it. They pulled up the clip of Bella's original public breakup statement from early 2023. And the point is simple. Bella talked about being cheated on, being blindsided, being hurt, and that is where it stopped. There was no mention of Amara. There was no mention of minors. There was no grooming allegations. And Marty plays that clip deliberately because the contrast between what Bella said then and what Bella is saying now is genuinely significant and it's hard to ignore. And in their initial video, when they told the internet that I cheated on them, never once did they mention No, never once did they mention Amara. And never once did they mention minors. >> Today is the 4month anniversary of this shitty [ __ ] roller coaster I've been on of being broken up with and not being told why. Um, in that time, I eventually did learn the truth. Uh, I got cheated on. Before I go and share this though, I just want to say do not go and send hate to anybody. No internet dog piling. It's not fair. This whole situation isn't fair. Like I've been through that and it's a nightmare that I would not wish on anybody, especially somebody that in a very [ __ ] up way I still love. >> That video is from 3 years ago. Bella just now got on the internet 2 weeks after me and Amara posted our breakup announcement and only then started mentioning minors. >> Didn't you cheat on your ex-girlfriend? No, I got cheated on with a minor and y'all still support them. >> This is not something that Bella has been talking about for a long time. These are lies that they added on to their initial story. >> Matt's argument just built from there. So basically, they point out that Bella only started raising allegations about Minor roughly 2 weeks after Mati and Amara publicly announced their own breakup in late 2025, which I also said in my last video. The suggestion being that Bella watched the conversation shift, just saw a window and escalated the claims just to fit that moment. That is a pointed accusation and it is not a ridiculous one to just put on the table because the timeline does raise a question that Bella has to answer which I also raised in my last video. If Bella knew about these things in 2022 or 2023, the obvious question is why it took so long and Bella's response has been that legal pressure from Matt's side just kept them from speaking and that the threat of legal action essentially forced silence. Whether that pressure was formal and documented or loosely implied or something Bella is reaching for now to explain the gap is something that cannot be verified from the outside. I don't know these people. I live in London, United Kingdom and the USA is very far. But again, the question itself is fair and sitting with it for a moment rather than just dismissing it is the honest thing to do. What matters though is that timing and truth are two completely separate things. People wait years before speaking about things that they witnessed or experienced and the reason behind that are almost never simple. Fear plays a role. Legal threats, real or implied, also plays a role. Social consequences, personal readiness, not wanting to be the person who blows everything up, all of that plays a role. The fact that someone did not say something immediately does not mean that they are fabricating it now. And collapsing those two things together is one of the oldest way of shutting down a conversation before it can actually happen. Waiting is not the same as lying. And treating it as evidence of dishonesty rather than a reason to ask more question is a move that deserves to be named for what it is. There are reasons that victims of abuse speak up years later. There's a reason Cassie spoke up so many years after Han did ended their relationship. It does not mean them not speaking up as soon as the assault happened was them lying. You get me? Now let's talk about the no situation. This is the part of Marty's response where you really have to slow down and listen to what they are saying because the wording is doing a lot of work. They do make a meaningful concession up front which is that they acknowledge that they were making videos with Norah when Nora was 17 and Marty was 20. And they describe that choice as widely widely or wildly as wildly irresponsible and incredibly stupid. That is not a tiny admission because it's just them accepting that the situation looks bad and that it should not have happened in the first place. But then the very next move is where things get messy. Marty immediately follows that concession by saying absolutely nothing romantically intimate or physically intimate happened with Nora. >> They said that in this screenshot I was 21 having a relationship with somebody who was 17. Me and the person in this screenshot have never had a physically intimate relationship before or after she turned 18. In fact, since nothing happened between us, I thought we were on good terms considering she reached out to me in 2023 just to check in and see how I was doing. I have reached out to her to let her know that it did sting, that she would instigate complete lies about me on the internet, but she never responded. The video that I'm about to show, as well as a couple clips that Bella did use for their YouTube video, have been on the internet for 5 years. Norah and I met when I first moved to LA in 2021. And so on June 16th, 2021, I posted this video of me and Nor. Looking back, it is wildly irresponsible and incredibly stupid of me to be making these videos with somebody when they were 17 and I was 20. And in regards to my initial video, I will always stand on the fact that absolutely nothing romantically intimate or physically intimate happened with No, even though making those videos was an extremely poor judgment. On paper, that sentence sounds definitive, but it also depends on what Marty personally counts as physically intimate, and that is exactly why people do not find it satisfying. [music] If you have seen clips where the body language and vibe reads as flirty or touchy, then hearing nothing physically intimate happened can feel like someone just playing a technical language game rather than responding to what people actually saw and felt when they watched it. I mean, there were fan edits of this ship. If there are fan edits of this ship, then people saw something more intimate than just friends. [music and singing] Sex me. [music] >> That gap between what you can argue in a literal sense and what the average person thinks they're looking at is a real issue here. A lot of commentary around this kind of situation is not about whether something crossed a specific legal or sexual line because most people are reacting to the pattern. The pattern is an adult getting close enough with a minor to make content that comes off as suggestive and then later insisting that nothing about it was intimate, which ends up sounding less like clarity and more like damage control. Marty also corrects Bella on the age detail and says that they were 20, not 21 during that period. They framed that correction as important because of the alcohol claims. Since being 20 would mean that they could not legally buy alcohol themselves because in America the legal age to start drinking alcohol is 21 years, but in the UK it's 18, which I guess is good. I also do want to take the time to clarify here that in my initial video when I said that I was 20, not 21, I was not saying that to try and justify my behavior in any way. I was not 21 in the screenshot. I was 20. This is me at 20. This is me at 21. I said that because Bella has been lying and saying that I was buying alcohol for people who were underage. >> Maddie would provide alcohol to these Tik Tok teenagers in the building. You were a grown adult who could provide alcohol for people who were underage because I couldn't even buy it for myself. >> But anyways, factory that argument makes sense as far as the specific who could purchase alcohol points goes. And I'd seen people saying there's no difference between age 20 and age 21. And I think the reason why they pointed this out was because at age 20, you cannot legally purchase alcohol. But in Noah's text message, the one that Noah had sent to only jails, Noah said that they got drunk at Nick's place and Noah was 17. So it's very conflicting. I'm not even going to lie. But anyways, that correction does not really change the power dynamic that people are concerned about because the core issue is not whether Marty was 20 or 21 is that they were an adult making this kind of content with a 17year-old. So even if the 21 detail was wrong and even if the alcohol part is more complicated than it sounds in a screenshot, the ethical question stays basically the same. A three-year gap is not automatically evil in every context. But when one person is a minor and the other is an adult, the bar for what counts as appropriate gets much higher, especially when the interaction is public facing and has a flat adjacent tone. That is why this section of the response just lands the way it does. Marty admits the situation was very irresponsible. But the denial that follows just feels too narrow for what people think they watched happen because I've watched that video so many times and it looked like they were dating each other. It looked like something was going on between them. So Matt is saying nothing intimate happened. I believe Marty because I believe women except and I don't think Nora actually said that anything intimate happened between them. But Nora said that in the text message that Norah gave Onich, they said that this is something that has been going through them and they're kind of traumatized from the whole event. But Nora has not gone through what specifically happened. So until Nora says what specifically happened, I am going to believe Marty for what they've said. I'm going to come out and be like, "Oh yes, they are lying or whatever. I'm not going to come out and do that." If that makes sense. Mati also mentions that Norah reached out to them in 2023 just to check in and frames that as evidence that things were left on decent terms. That detail is worth knowing, but it does not do the work that Marty seems to want it to do. In my own opinion, people carry complicated feelings about situations that they were in, especially when they were younger. And reaching out years later does not mean that the original dynamic was fine or that both people processed it the same way. Someone can be on speaking terms with a person from their past and still have unresolved feelings about what happened. And using a friendly check-in as a retroactive evidence that nothing was wrong is a leap that does not quite land. And honestly, even me, like there are people who have hurt me when I was younger and I was still kicking with them until like 2021. I [music] stood up to them and they were shocked. Where did all this come from? Sometimes it takes time for you to process your feelings if that makes sense. So guys, I was speaking I realized I was not recording. But anyways, when I finished recording and finished my research, Noah came forward and laid everything out clearly. She explained that back in 2021 that she found a police report against Marty's old roommate, Snake, for assault. And that throughout that entire process, Marty was of no help to the case whatsoever. Then fast forward to 2023 when people started questioning why no was texting Marty out of nowhere. So basically no actually said the reason why she texted Marty was because the case was passed over to a you detective which meant that no had to start gathering information all over again and she simply needed to confirm that she had the right number for Marty to hand over to law enforcement and that was the only reason behind those messages. When I was listening to Marty's event or account of events, I realized that Marty had not spoken about Nick, but I gave Marty the benefit of the doubt because I was like, "Okay, maybe because this is really not about Nick at this point. It's mainly about Matthew. Matt's repetition. Maybe that's why they did not mention Nick." So now I'm realizing I'm like, "Oh my god." Like maybe there's more to it. Maybe. But when it comes to No, no was very, very clear that she was not accusing Marty of committing a crime. But what she was calling out though was the fact that Marty was 20 years old at that time and was consistently spending time with 17year-old minors providing alcohol for them and offering up a space for those minors to drink in. But Marty came out and said that 20 years old they cannot like get alcohol. They can't buy alcohol for anybody even for themsel because I think the legal age to drink in America is 21. And on top of all of that, Marty, according to No, continued to like stand by their roommates even after multiple people came forward saying that he had assaulted them. No actually said that. It's so sad that no has to say this. So no said that a 17year-old and a 20-year-old dynamic is never okay. And that the age of consent in California 89, no matter how much you spin it, the adult in that situation always knows better. >> There's a very serious situation that I've been meaning to address. Um, and I just needed to gather myself and all my stuff so that I could lay it out. Um, this is about Maddie and so I'm just going to kind of start from the top and give you guys my whole side of things. The text messages to OnlyJS saying that I wanted to be involved was because I had to file a police report against Mattiey's roommate Nick back in 2021 and Maddie was no help to that case at all. I had sent some text messages to Maddie back in February of 2023. Um, just kind of making small talk. And I'll tell you why. This email was sent to me January 18th, 2023. And I cropped out the bottom because it contained the officer's contact information, but you can talk to this. With that being said, the assault case that I had filed against Mattiey's roommate, Nick, back in 2021 was passed to a new detective, which means I had to give them a lot of new information. And the reason that I had sent those text messages is because I needed to see if that was still Mattiey's phone number. Maddie wasn't the only person whose phone number I had to give over to the detective. So, there was more phone numbers other than Maddie. But from what I know, there was no cooperation from anybody else involved. Um, hence why the case is no longer active. I just want to say that I am not accusing Maddie Westbrook of any type of crime or assault. But I do think it is very, very weird as a 20-year-old to be hanging out with 17-year-olds and minors. Mind you, also providing alcohol and an apartment for said minors to drink in. Maddie also continued to stand behind their old roommate after multiple people had come out about them getting assaulted by him. So, I just wanted to say that my experience with Maddie when I was 17 years old was very inappropriate and very weird behavior coming from somebody who was 20 years old. And no matter what, 17 and 20 is not right. Even if it is a three-ear age gap, even if the person is just about to turn 18, it doesn't matter. that is still a minor and an adult. And the adult always, always, always knows better in those situations. So, you cannot blame the minor. Just so you guys know as well, the age of consent in California is 18 years old. So, a 17-year-old cannot consent to anything. The age to buy alcohol is 21. Matty's old roommate was the one to buy the alcohol. That being said, I am not a victim of a crime with Maddie, but definitely some very, very weird behavior. And that is all I'm going to say on this topic. But now, let's speak about the Amara timeline. Marty's Amara section is one of the sleekst part of their response because it mixes a few different arguments that sound convincing on first listen, even though they're not all answering the same question. Marty flat out denies the claims that they met Amara when Amara was 15. They also jumped on the fact that Bella first said 15 and then corrected it to 16. And Marty frames that correction as Bella basically admitting that they lied the first time. That is an effective way to undermine Bella's credibility very fast because once you get people focused on a wrong number, they start doubting the whole story, not just the number. Then Mati knocks out Bella's how they met timeline with something that was much more concrete. Bella says that they met Amara at a Spotify podcaster event on July 27, 2022. And Mati responds by saying that Amara was not there. So when Marty spoke about this, they showed camera roll photos that Amara had allegedly sent to them. And the place that Amara was at at that time was Sequoas. So basically, Amar was at Sequoia's at the same time as the Spotify event and they used that as proof that Bella's meeting story cannot be true. >> In this next one, I'm going to prove back to back that Bella is lying about Amara and my relationship. >> Hey, that's a cool jacket. But why you giving it to this teenage girl that we met together just a few days after staying at my house? >> The proof that they have is from a screenshot of me in a red hoodie from December of 2022 and a screenshot of Amara in her own red hoodie from March of 2023, which is over a month after Bella and I went complete no contact and when Amara was already 18. This was also not my hoodie. We both owned the same Brandy Melville hoodie. I also have no idea why Bella is lying that I met Amara when she was 15 years old. This never happened. In fact, Bella admitted to lying in their YouTube video, but then went on. >> I did originally say that we met Amara when she was 15, and I you're going to have to forgive me for that because the math is wrong. Uh she was 16. I remember meeting her at this like it was like a Spotify podcaster event. >> Bella and I went to a Spotify event together on July 27th, 2022. But do you know where Amara was during this time? In the Sequoas. These are pictures that Amara sent me herself from her camera roll. She was not at that Spotify event. Also, since this is a massive point of contention, Amara has publicly stated multiple times that her and I did not become friends or start dating until after she turned 18. Even if you do not know every detail of the event, that kind of here is the date, here is a location, here are photos. That kind of approach just tends to land well with people because it feels more tangible than trust me. Because in Bella's original video, Bella was like, I'm sorry that I could not record all this to show YouTube. But Matty came with a more concrete evidence and this was that Amara was at Squire, if that makes sense. I did originally say that we met Amara when she was 15 and I you're going to have to forgive me for that because the math is wrong. Uh she was 16 because events didn't start happening until 2021. I remember meeting her at this like it was like a Spotify podcaster event. I remember Drew Off speaking. I'm sorry I didn't take a bunch of pictures to prove this for you guys years later. You just got to trust that. I remember meeting her. I remember Maddie introducing me to her with her ex uh JT and like in a way that's like oh like you're mutuals with this person. you're friends with this person. And we're walking away like, "Oh my god, she's so pretty." And in my head, I'm like, "She's so young." I remember them saying that Amaro is like really pretty. And my first thought was, "She's like really young and she has a boyfriend." My guess is Maddie did wait until this teenage girl turned 18 to start dating them. And again, another thing was when I watched Bella's video, I was wondering, again, I'm not in the influencer space. I live in London and I don't think I have like influencer friends like that, especially in London. So, I don't know who they invite to all these events because I was discussing this matter with my friend before I uploaded the first video and I was like, why would Spotify invite a 16year-old to an event? Maybe I'm just too old cuz I'm 30 years old. Maybe I'm just too old. But inviting a 16year-old to a Spotify event, I don't know if they do that. Again, I'm just a grandma. [laughter] So, Mati also leans on Amara's own public statement that the relationship did not begin until after Amara turned 18. But the accusation people are stuck on is not only what age was Amara when you two were officially together. It is when did the contact start getting meaningful. That difference matters because a relationship going public at 18 can be the surface layer while the actual foundation was being built earlier. If Marty and Amara were in the same orbit when Amara was 16, even if nothing was official, quote unquote, the uncomfortable question becomes whether there was emotional closeness or grooming adjacent behavior or a mentorship vibe that slowly crossed lines over time. which is very weird because researching this case made me realize that there are lesbian mentorship and is mostly between minors and adults. Like it's so weird. Like I did not know there was anything like mentorship between minors and adult. If you're in minor watching this, get a therapist. And I'm very serious. Like, are you people? Is everybody okay? [laughter] Is everybody okay? What the [ __ ] is gay mentorship? Like, yo, again, I'm too old for this. Maybe it's a new thing. Like, the [ __ ] Excuse my language. It's still early. But anyways, Matt's response focuses hard on the clean headline that she was 18. But it does not really dig into what their contact looked like before that point, how often they were talking, what the tone was, and whether boundaries were in place because Amara was still a teenager. So yes, Matt's point can be compelling in a debate sense because they attack a date, they attack a number, and they cite Amara's public stance. But none of those pieces fully answer the thing that people are actually trying to figure out which is what happened in the leadup, not just what got labeled a relationship later. So now let's talk about the anonymous allegation. Matthew's handling of the anonymous screenshot is one of the moments where both sides of the argument are partially right, which makes it harder to land on a clean ground. They dismissed the messages from people claiming to have uncomfortable interactions with them as minors by calling them baseless lies and pointing out that the accounts behind them had no follow through, no proof, and apparently went silent after sending. That challenge is not unreasonable on its surface because anonymous allegations without any supporting evidence attached to them should not automatically be treated as settled fact especially when the accusations are this serious and the stakes are this high. But dismissing all of them at once in the same breath with the same level of certainty, it's its own kind of problem because I think I can remember Jo saying that they had asked these people to show them Matty's number and Jos said that the number that they had of Marty was the same that this person had. Address all of the screenshots that Bella has used as evidence against me. First, in this screenshot where someone is 17 and then asks how old I am, there's absolutely no inappropriate conversation being had here. I was 19 in 2020, brand new to accepting myself into the queer community, and I was legitimately just trying to make friends. Now, I cannot begin to express how absolutely wild it is that Bella used screenshots as evidence against me of people in their DMs with absolutely no response, no proof, and zero follow-through when Bella asked them for more information. >> It was like 4 years ago. My cousin and I were hanging out and she was showing me that Maddie was flirting with her and we were like 13 at the time. Do I think that a famous adult should be texting 13year-olds? [ __ ] no >> because that's a lie. That never happened. >> This person says, "Thanks for speaking up about Maddie." They messaged me too a few years ago when I almost turned 17. >> That's a lie. No, I did not. >> We have this person that said, "Maddie and I went on two dates down in Hunting Huntington Beach, California when I was 17. I thought it was so cool dating somebody older, but now I look back and I'm disgusted." I do remember Maddie hanging out a lot at the beach around that time. Like a lot. We had some friends that had like a bus. >> Not only was that a lie because that never happened. I went through my camera roll because I take pictures everywhere I go and I've never even been to Huntington Beach. >> Also had another person reach out being like, "Hey, is it weird that like Maddie liked the thirst trap of mine when I was 16?" >> They spent a full 3 minutes reading these and feeding into the baseless lies. Do you know how many people would make up lies just to message a popular content creator? Because I guarantee you it's more than you think. >> So basically, when Marty asked something along the lines of, "Do you know how many people would make things up just to message a popular content creator?" The implication being built into that question is that everyone who sent a message like that was lying. It does not leave room for the possibility that some of them were fabricated and some of them were not. Because asking the audience to assume bad faith across the board is the same move as asking them to assume good faith across the board just pointed in the opposite direction. And there was even someone that messaged only Jos and was like Matty liking my video when I was it 13 or 14. Does that count? That means again there's a possibility that yes other people may have fabricated something and sent to jails just because they also want to be part of the equation. But the honest answer is that without individual evaluation, you cannot know which is which. And Matt's response does not attempt that evolution at all. The Among Us screenshot is the one that generated the most conversation, and Matt's explanation of it is worth unpacking carefully. The interaction started on a Zoom call where people were playing Among Us in 2020. And at some point, the other person revealed that they were younger. Marty says they made a joke in response that they deeply regret. And that comes across as a real admission rather than a dodge. >> Now, on to these texts. The context to this is that I was on a Zoom call playing Among Us with people whose average age was 20. And me and a person from this Zoom call ended up messaging. And as you can see, when I asked how old they were and they told me, I freaked out. And for some idiotic reason, I tried to make a joke. I deeply regret sending that text message. I should not have been using that language with somebody who was younger than me. I should not have said that. And as you can see from this screenshot that Bella absolutely refuses to acknowledge, this same person who screen recorded our entire conversation that Bella read out loud in their YouTube video is clearly stating that I stopped talking to them after I found out how old they were. I also do want to take a second here to clarify that this person and I were not friends. We met on a Zoom call in 2020 and had one conversation and then we stopped talking. That's not friendship. And in Bella's YouTube video, they decided to say this. And I have proof that somebody who screen recorded a conversation we had in 2020 told Bella that we stopped talking once I >> That's crazy. This is like actually crazy. You just showed this like you cut it off. You cut off this one part. >> Of course, I wanted to show this one part. It's the most important part. It proves that I had absolutely zero intentions of flirting with this person and that I stopped after I found out how old they were. Also, in all of these texting screenshots from the two people who could prove to Bella that they did have my old phone number, not one of them told Bella that I was attempting to have an inappropriate conversation with them or that I was pursuing them romantically at all because I was not. And I will reiterate this until the day that I die. Never in my entire life have I ever attempted to have an intimate or romantic relationship with absolutely anybody who is underage. And if you go back to Bella's video, they're mostly just talking with absolutely no proof to back up what they're saying. So, if there is something in Bella's YouTube video that I haven't addressed, it's because they didn't have any proof to back it up. They also point to a follow-up part of the screenshot that shows the same person confirming Marty stopped talking to them after learning their age. And that detail is presented as exonerating half of the story. >> So, you know this text that they're parading around being like, "Look, the child said that I stopped talking to them when I found out they were a child." Notice how it's cut off. That's because I said it's worth sharing because telling a 14-year-old you're going to give them daddy issues is strange. I said, "Man, I didn't even think about that. Hold up. Let me get the rest of our messages." And they sent the rest cuz it didn't stop. Which that whole thing I did put in my YouTube video if you wanted to go see it. Showing only the parts of a conversation that support your argument while hiding the parts that complicates it is not journalism. It does not come across as being fair or being transparent. It literally comes off as you are framing the situation. And it is the kind of thing that erot trust in the person presenting the evidence once it gets spotted. But even accepting Matt's version of event, the joke itself is still sitting there at the center of it. Ending the conversation after learning someone's age is the right thing to do. But the first reaction to that information should not be a flirtatious remark. And Matty, to their credit, they acknowledge that most of the focus lands on what Bella allegedly hid rather than on the moment itself and what it says about where Matty's head was at the time. The last stretch of the video shifts into attacking Bella directly, and it is the part that is the easiest to recognize as a strategy because it follows a very familiar structure. Marty brings up the faked Reddit screenshots, the plagiarism history, and describes Bella as a constant poison in my life for years. They also alleged that Bella has physically shown up to where they live and they frame the delay in responding publicly as something that they were partly driven by their fear for their own safety. >> We have to remember who the source is here. Bella has been the source of hatred and controversy for years now. And even recently, Bella was caught faking documents to further their agenda in an argument that they had online with another content creator over Bella stealing his content. I'm going to pin those videos in the comment section so that you can see them for yourself. Now, just to clear some things up here, I was not the ex that failed to get a domestic abuse restraining order against Bella. >> Well, don't you have a domestic violence charge and a restraining order on you? No. >> That was someone else. And I did call attention to Bella's abusive behavior towards me because it shows that Bella is consistently tormenting my life and refusing to take accountability for it and calling it jokes. This was to a friend. I said, "Oh, have you seen my cheating ex? Can you slap the [ __ ] out of them for me?" This was a tiny ass girl that I was me at Coachella. run because we bought Coachella tickets and then we weren't going together anymore. So, if you if you see me there, you better run cuz I am coming up to you and we are having a [ __ ] conversation. >> Just for you, I will address it here, okay? I threatened myself. >> They have physically threatened me and they have shown up to the place that I live. They got on the internet 2 weeks after my breakup announcement with claims that they had never made before. And while Bella is accusing me of vile crimes, people are calling it tea and drama. So, of course, I'm going to get on the platform that I have spent the past 7 years every single day trying to build an uplifting and positive community on. I'm going to take accountability for myself and for the people who have cheered me on for the past 7 years. But I'm also here to disprove the disgusting lies that Bella is spreading about me right now. They've been a constant poison in my life for years and this is my last video addressing them. >> Which on actually said this in the original video. They said that it was something that the two of them did together like if nobody answered them they would show up at each other's houses. So Marty did not say if that was true or not. So that's from only JSO. But Marty said all of this. But thing is none of that background on Bella is invented. Yeah. The fabricated Reddit is documented. The plagiarisms have been floating around for years and Bella's credibility has taken real hits over time. All of that is worth knowing if you are trying to understand who is presenting the information and how much weight to give their version of event. The problem is that evidence does not become less real because the person who gathered it has a messy history. Screenshots do not change depending on who compiled them. video footage exists whether or not the person who uploaded it has ever done something dishonest. So, leaning so heavily on discrediting Bella ends up working against Marty in a very strange way because the more time the video spends on who Bella is as a person, the less time he spends actually engaging with what is in the evidence. And that absence is noticeable. I spoke about this on my last video and I said, "Wow, Marty did their Tik Tok, their 3 minutes Tik Tok, they kept putting screenshots of who Bella was when Bella was with them and when the relationship had ended, which in my own opinion is a bit manipulative because the example I wanted to use in my last video, it may be I won't say it may be extreme, but this is the only way I can put it. Imagine you're in an abusive relationship and it's so abusive, but the authorities know you as someone who takes drugs, who is always on the street. And when you go to report your partner to the police, your partner comes and be like, "She's lying." See, she's known for doing this. She's known for taking drugs. She's known for fighting and all of this. That doubt could influence the action that the authorities may want to take. Hopefully that makes sense. Hopefully that makes sense. That's why I'm like it's a bit manipulative because in reality this person is hurting you but because they keep pointing to your past actions and what you did in your past it could manipulate the situation and it could manipulate the judgment that the authorities may want to take on you. Hopefully that makes sense. So again, in my own opinion, cuz yeah, I watched that response video like more than twice, leaning so heavily on discrediting Bella just ends up working against Marty in a strange way because the more time the video spends on who Bella is as a person, the less time it spends actually engaging with what is in the evidence. And that absence is noticeable. A response that took each piece of proof and went through it directly would have been considerably harder to argue with than one that keeps circling back to but look at who is telling you this. Hopefully that makes sense. So now that brings us to the tiger principle. The comparison that keeps resurfacing in this conversation in my head that I cannot just get out of is the tiger and the Kylie Jenner situation. And I don't know if it's random to bring it, but the reason why this keeps coming up is because the structural parallel is genuinely hard to ignore. Tiger was around 24 years when rumors started setting about him and Kylie, who was 17 at the time. Some sources actually said she was 16. The thing is, the public knew, the family knew, there were denials and deflections. And then the moment Akyli turned 18 in August of 2015, the relationship went public and Tiger gifted her a Ferrari for her birthday. The timing was so on the nose that it read less like something that came coincidental and more like someone who had been watching a clock. Honestly speaking, the criticism that followed was not really about what happened at 18. It was about everything that preceded it. Because a grown adult does not go official with someone the moment that they hit a legal threshold unless the interest existed well before that threshold. The waiting itself communicates something. Knowing the boundary exists, choosing to stay close anyway and then moving the second is shift is the part that people recognized as a problem and they were right to the cultural reaction at the time said everything about how people read the situation. Drake took a shot at Tiger in a lyric. Drake said, "You need to act your age and not your girl's age." And Barose even publicly said that Tiger should be ashamed for leaving his family for someone who had just turned 17. And can you wear what became one of his most uncomfortable sound bite told the Breakfast Club that Tiger got in early, which a lot of people heard as an accidental admission that the relationship predicted what anyone was supposed to be comfortable with. Now apply that same framework to the message that Marty sent. Marty has not denied sending that message. The defense they offered was that it was a poorly thought out joke, something they deeply regretted saying, and that they stopped talking to the person after finding out their age. They also pointed to a screenshot, the portion where Bella allegedly cut up that showed the other person confirming that Marty did end the communication. If this is accurate, it means that Marty recognized the line and pulled back, which matters and should be acknowledged. But the thing is that the message still exists and the instinct behind it still sits there regardless of what happened afterwards. I can't wait to take you on a date when you turn 18 is not a sentence that you arrive at accidentally. It requires knowing the person is under age. Registering that as a barrier and then expressing that you are looking forward to the moment that that barrier lifts. That sequence of thought even if it's never translated into action is exactly what people mean when they talk about grooming dynamics. Because grooming is not always physical and it does not always escalate. Sometimes it is simply an [clears throat] adult making clear to a minor that their interest is there and that it is waiting. And that communication alone does damage regardless of whether anything else ever follows from it. The fact that Mati was corrected after sending it does not erase the fact that the instinct to send it existed in the first place. And for a public figure with a young audience, that instinct is not something you get to just foul away under deeply regret and move past without further examination. Now, let's speak about the credibility shield. And I'm going to expand on this because I have spoken about it. But again, one of the most consistent moves that Matty makes throughout the video is pointing back at Bella's history every time a claim needs to be countered. And the honest thing to say is that it works at least on a surface level. Bella's credibility has taken genuine hits over the years. And those hits are not invented. So when Marty needs to create distance between themselves and an allegation, they do not have to work very hard because the audience already knows Bella's track record and that knowledge is sitting right there ready to do the work for them. But that strategy has a ceiling and it is worth naming where that ceiling is. Bella having lied before does not mean that Bella is lying now. Bella having fabricated evidence before does not mean every single screenshot in the current video is fake. Those two things feel connected because of how human pattern recognition works. But they are not logically the same. And treating them as if they are is how serious allegations just get buried under a person's reputation rather than actually being examined. Every claim in this situation deserve to be looked at individually on its own evidence, not filtered entirely through the character of the person presenting it. Matt's approach of categorizing everything as lies might be understandable from a self-p protection standpoint, but it does not actually address the specific pieces of evidence that are still sitting on the table waiting for a direct response. Then there is the physical threat framing, which again shifts the whole texture of the video in a very specific direction. Mati referenced messages from Bella that included lines like you better hope you never see my face again and something along the lines of if you see me at Coachella run. They also described Bella showing up to their home uninvited which which is true because Bella confirmed it. Like I said, Bella said that the two of them did it when nobody responded. Bella's explanation for the Coachella comment was that they had bought tickets together before the breakup and that running into each other there would mean having a conversation, not a physical confrontation. Whether those explanations fully hold depends on tone and context that most people watching do not have complete access to. And that ambiguity is exactly the kind of space that lets both sides tell very different stories using the same raw material. What is worth paying attention to is what including those screenshots accomplishes within the video itself. It does two things at once. It cast Bella as the aggressor in the situation and it gives Marty a reason for the delay in responding that has nothing to do with avoiding accountability. Instead of being someone who sat on a response for weeks while allegations mounted, Marty becomes someone who was scared and needed time to feel safe enough to speak. That is a fundamentally different story and it reframes the entire dynamic from person being held accountable to person being targeted which is a much more sympathetic position to be making a video from. That reframing is worth clocking because it shapes how everything else in the video lands before the audience even gets to the specific claim. Then I'm going through Tik Tok and I see this person but M. This person positions herself as a neutral observer. So basically she said that she finds Marty to be much more of a reliable narrator. But it's not because of anything that matter has actually proved or any evidence that Marty has even presented. It was purely because of the way Marty spoke. So according to this person, she said that Mati was much more calmer, had a much more steady tone, had a much more composed delivery and spoke calmly and was just straight to the point. But only Jos on the other hand came across as aggressive, spoke quickly and jumped from topic to topic in a way that was very hard to follow. And based on nothing more than that, Beth Maiden, I think that's her name, said that she instinctively believes Martin. And this is where we just need to really sit down and stop and really really think about what the [ __ ] is going on here. She's openly saying that she's more inclined to believe one person over the other based on their presentation style and basically not on the fact, not on the timeline, not on the supporting evidence, just on the way they came across on camera. Only Jos was all over the place. Yes. But I would not say that only Jos was all over the place because they were lying or being dramatic. only just found out their partner cheated on them and then the person that they once loved is associated with speaking to minor. Yes, that is them carrying something that is very real and painful. And when you finally speak about something like that, it does not always come out in a neat structured or well paced video. Trauma can be messy. And again, like when you're filled with emotion, there's no one way to present yourself because emotion is not linear. And when something has genuinely happened to you, you do not always have the ability to just sit in front of a camera and deliver it like you [music] have like this is a script that you have carefully rehearsed. And again, I'm not here to defend Only Jos. What only Jos did like they the most cancelled influence I've ever ever seen in my life. And what they did is so inexcusable. But again, I'm someone who uses logic and I'm here to separate things and put everything on the table. I'm a very logical person in real life. Another thing is only jails. People have not said this. Only Jos was standing. I don't know about you, but when I stand and I'm having a conversation, I'm very restless. Only Jos also has ADHD. And if you have ADHD, I have ADHD. Sometimes you do not stay on one topic when you're having a full-on conversation. But the thing is, M could do exactly that. Somehow that calmness just gets interpreted as credibility while only J's emotions just gets interpreted as unreliability. Beth herself I think I think she even acknowledged it herself like midpoint when she literally said that whether that is true or not she admitted that none of none of what she was observing was actually proof of anything she basically knew that it was not a solid measure of truth and she said it anyway and the thing is that she packaged it as a psychological analysis and she said that oh in all of this she's very very neutral but girl there is nothing neutral about that you're being biased the only thing you've done is just to slap a label of disclaimer. And that is exactly the kind of thinking that has historically been used to dismiss people who speak out. A black person being angry is seen as aggressive. A white person being angry seen as emotional. A Latina person being angry is seen as spicy. And that is how we judge people based on how they present themselves. Because when we start judging credibility by how polished someone looks delivering their story, we are no longer looking for truth. We are just rewarding whoever performs better under pressure and that should be a thing of concern. But yo, I'm out of breath and I hope I finish saying everything I want to say. Let me go back to editing because yo, this video needs to come out tomorrow or Friday. But anyways, I think I'll spend so much on this topic. Anyways, subscribe. Matty comes across as a more reliable narrator. Like regardless of which side you're on, the way that Matty speaks to the camera, I think instinctively makes you believe them more. Only JS speaks very quickly, has quite an aggressive tone. You feel like they're shouting at you, and they're not very succinct in what they're trying to say either. On the other hand, Matty speaks calmly to the camera, doesn't raise their voice, and delivers their message much more succinctly. I think psychologically, it makes Matty come across as more reliable, [music] whether that's true or not. As a piece of influencing, Mattiey's most recent video was very effective. It addressed all the points in only JS's video. It took some accountability but didn't take accountability for the most egregious allegations obviously because Matty says they're not true. But actually taking accountability for some things is definitely the right way in an influencer kind of apology. Like influencers never come across well if they just deny everything. And obviously only Jay is coming from a place of emotion and you can tell that she's passionate about what she's talking about. But the way she like skips from topic to topic, it's hard to kind of track what she's saying. The only part where I think Matty slips up is that uh they make quite a few personal attacks against Bella Rose where they don't necessarily need to. They could just defend, but they kind of go on the counter a little bit. I don't know. I'm a neutral observer, but I find the psychology of the messaging quite interesting. Now, let's talk about what the response does not address. Even taking Matty's video at face value, there are gaps that do not get filled in, and those gaps matter more than the parts that were addressed. The date when you turn 18 message is arguably the single most damaging piece of evidence in this entire situation, and Marty does not deeply engage with it. They acknowledge the among conversation. They call the joke idiotic. They say they regret it, and then they move on. But that message is not just an embarrassing moment in a chat log. It is a sentence that demonstrates two things at the same time. One that Martin knew the person was a minor and that the response to learning that was not to step back but to express that the interest would be there waiting on the other side of their 18th birthday. That combination of awareness and anticipation is what makes it stick. And a 30inut video that does not sit with that properly is a 30-inut video that left its most important question on the floor. The pattern argument also goes unaddressed in any meaningful way. Mati goes through each situation individually. Norah here amarad there anonymous account somewhere else and denies or contextualizes each one on its own terms. But Bella's argument was never just about a single person. It was about a pattern and a pattern cannot be dismantled by picking off each example one at a time without ever acknowledging that the examples sit next to each other. But you know what they didn't put in their video? Nick. They didn't mention Nick at all. I wonder why. They also said that them being with a 17-year-old wasn't cheating on me because we weren't dating at the time. That that is just laughable cuz we had been dating for 2 months at this point and all this [ __ ] happened in July. Everybody wants me to respond to it, but I don't think y'all heard. They admitted to it while also trying to downplay it. And then also at the same time saying that Bella is a liar. Bella lied about everything. I don't know how to respond to this level of gaslighting. This is the reason. I can't believe the victims, you guys, cuz they're they're the ones coming out. They're the reasons why I came out and talked about this now. Talked about the cheating years ago. Talked about these minors recently because I didn't I didn't know until recently. Denying each tree separately does not address the forest, and the forest is what people are looking at. Marty admits to making physically suggestive content with a 17-year-old in 2021. The question is not just did anything happen with this person, but what does this proximity say about a brother dynamic? So, here is where things actually do stand. Two competing version of events remain on the table and neither one is clean. Bella's version is that there was deception throughout the relationship and there was inappropriate contact with minors and that a pattern exists which runs from Nora through to the Amara situation supported by screenshots, text messages, blah blah blah video footage accounts from people who actually did come forward. Marty's version is that they made real mistakes including cheating and that the content with Nora was irresponsible, that the Among Us joke was idiotic and they regretted it. that the serious allegation involving miners are fabricated from someone with a documented history of dishonesty who timed everything to land at maximum impact after their breakup with Amara went public. Both of those versions contain things that are true. Both of them have holes and neither person is walking away from this with their hands clean. >> Am I shocked that people want to dismiss Maddie for hooking up with minors? No. No. No. I stopped trusting the judgment of people on TikTok after I saw how you woripped Avery Cyrus for cheating with Jojo Seiwa. I mean, that alone was unforgivable. Hooking up with minors is obviously so much worse, but I I'm not shocked at all that you forgive that either. >> I am so sick of seeing these [ __ ] ass comments, bro. Oh, I think both of them are bad. They're both wrong, JUST ON DIFFERENT THINGS. ONE was minorly problematic in 2020 Tik Tok and the other one's [ __ ] with miners. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Maybe maybe I'm not woken up, but saying a slur 10 years ago or or even or or even just in like 2020 2022 being racist some point in the in there is not nearly as bad as [ __ ] with kids. Oh, and there's a lot of people a lot of people defending this [ __ ] by saying that she she waited till SHE WAS 18. I DON'T GIVE A [ __ ] That shit's weird. You know, the day you turn 18 does not magically make you like mature. May maybe I'm maybe I'm not woke enough, but the day you turn 18, you are just as unattractive to me as the day you were the day previously when you were 17. >> So before I go forward, I just want to put a trigger warning and I'm going to speak heavily on racism. First of all, one thing this creator said was one was minorly problematic and the other one was speaking to a minor. [music] Yes, what Marty has been alleged to do is very bad. Like you should not speak to a minor in the capacity has been alleged to speak to a minor. But it does not erase what only JSOs did. Only JS was proved to be racist. And to only J's credit, only JS is doing everything to become a better person. I believe in people changing and all of that. They doing everything, but it does not change what only JS did. Both of them are wrong. I have a problem when people that are not from marginalized communities try to minimize the experience of people that are going through things like racism. And as someone who has been through racism, someone who's gone through racism is very triggering. And this is where I'm going to enter the triggering part. Personally, in 2020, I've spoken about it on this channel. I [music] was almost assaulted just because I'm black. 2:00 a.m. I'm sleeping in my house. That time I was staying a shared accommodation. I was sleeping in my house and my housemate had just come in. Two weeks he was knocking like he was living below me and he kept knocking my ceiling and knocking his ceiling and it was affecting me. And I thought that maybe he was like, you know, hanging his pictures on the wall or something. And I go and I knock on his door and I asked, I was like, "Oh, I'm trying to sleep cuz the next morning was my brother's wedding and I needed to leave London. I need to wake I need to wake up at 5:00 to leave London so that I will go for my brother's wedding. And this boy or this man threatened me. He told me go back to where you're from. Threatening to beat me up. And he said next time I'm going to smash your face. It wouldn't be the ceiling. He was following me upstairs as I was running. It came to the point where I had to call the police. The police got involved and everything. I got so triggered. I was so scared to go to my house. I was so scared to put my food in the fridge because somebody that I do not know from Adam, threatened, threatened me. And when I called the police on him, he came back and threatened me because I called the police on him. I was almost homeless, y'all, because I didn't want to live there. And I left that house and I broke my list. And y'all, I had to pay for the months I did not stay in that house because I was threatened by someone. So what Marty did or what Marty has been alleged to do is very disgusting. But that does not minimize the fact that someone is being racist. It does not minimize what only JS did. So yes, both of them are wrong. One does not cancel the other. One does not cancel the other cuz I am literally so triggered right now. And I don't know why she's shouting. Sis, why are you shouting? I don't know why she's shouting. Yeah, I am so tired of this case. After this, I'm going to take a week's break because what the hell? I need to cleanse my house because this person just pissed me off. One does not cancel the other. One was minorly problematic. No, only just called someone a [ __ ] with a [ __ ] lover with a hard R. And there is no level of racism that can be quantified or hopefully I'm saying the right thing. I have a problem when people from that are not marginalized think that they can measure the pain and the suffering of marginalized people. I have a problem with that. But anyways, what's the time? It's literally 10:06 a.m. This video should come out today. And yeah, I think I'm done. Um, yeah, conclusion. I have just five sentences to say. Leave miners the [ __ ] alone. But guys, that brings us to the end of this video. Thank you so much. If you made it to the end, thank you so much for sticking it to the end. I really do appreciate each and every one of you. Um, so basically, I have to go to the hospital today. I have an appointment in 1 hour at 10:00 because currently it's 8:49 a.m. and I need to go to the hospital. So today is where they're going to put the contrast. I have been taking my medication um just to you know erase everything and I feel so much better. My hand has reduced is not as big as it was. I still feel a bit of pain but it's not like anything like as bad as like the first time. I feel so much better. Um, but I still need to go to the hospital so that they can check my body and just erase everything that they may suspect is going on. Also, if you're stretching your ear cuz I'm on an air stretch journey. I put in Let me come closer to the camera, please. I literally I'm on 6 mm, but I went straight from 5 mm to 6 mm. Meanwhile, I always go in between. But it was yesterday that I realized that there was no 5.5. So, putting the 6 mm in there was so painful. And in all my journey cuz I've been I started this journey in August of last year. This is the most painful. Like even sleeping was so hard because I just went up a whole one gauge. And after 6 mm, the next one in my kit is 8 mm. And on Google I literally realized that there is no 7 mm. So how the [ __ ] am I supposed to go from five from six all the way to eight? I'm already dredging it. So can someone tell me if this is real? Cuz I am so scared. I don't want my ear to tear. Yeah. So, yeah. But anyways, guys, that brings us to the end of this video. Can someone let me know what you think or can you guys let me know what you think about this video? My cat was disturbing me throughout this recording. Like, I have recorded this video for 1 hour 11 minutes, which it should be less, but he keeps meowing. But yeah, thank you guys so much. I really do appreciate each and every one of you. Um, yeah. Uh, so I need to go and shower and get prepared to go to the hospital and just get this over and done with. Okay, thank you for your support. Thank you for your kindness and your kind words. And yo, we reached 50,000 subscribers. Actually, we're on 51,000 now. Let me even check where we are on now. Like, you are the perfect set of people. Thank you so much. We are on 51,392 subscribers. Yo, take me to 100K. Okay, I really do appreciate the support and the kind words and thank you guys cuz I've seen a lot. Someone spoke about the way I speak coming for my accent. Some people come for my accent. Some people came for my accent. Some people are going to come for my accent. I really don't care what you guys think about my accent. Someone's like, "If you can please enunciate your words." Excuse me. My words are enunciated. Like, I do not care about what you think about my accent. Let's start from there. I'm Nigerian and I don't typically have like a proper Nigerian accent which even I didn't know I didn't realize that until people were like, "Oh, you don't sound Nigerian. You sound like this. You sound like that." I've gotten so many people say I do not sound Nigerian. I sound this. I sound that. Which cool, whatever. But I'm not going to change how I sound to suit your ears. Okay, let's start from there. There are so many people who have American accent that do commentary. There are so many people who have British accent that do commentary. There are so many people who have Irish accent that do commentary. I'm not going to change the way I speak because if I was white and I sounded like this, it would have fascinated you and people would be watching all the time. You would not comment about the accent. So, leave me the [ __ ] alone, okay? Leave me and my accent the [ __ ] alone. But thank you to you people who acknowledge and love my accent and just love hearing me speak. Those are the people that I deeply appreciate. Okay, so if you cannot understand me, that is fine. You could turn on auto captions if you feel you can't do that. There are like I think two three other people that are speaking on this topic. Go and watch them. Okay, but thank you so much and until next time. Bye. Oh, and I also forgot I made my hair myself. So, I actually remade it. I washed the last one and I remade the front, which I don't really like cuz it looks so neat. So, I've been trying to like rough it up cuz I don't like my hair being neat. So, I have like tried to rough it up and all of that. So yeah, bye. >> [music]

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