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Positive elements
- This video provides highly specific technical insights into how RAM speed and TDP (Thermal Design Power) significantly impact integrated GPU performance.
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- The creator uses 'revelation framing' to make standard marketing benchmarks feel like a personal betrayal, which increases viewer reliance on the creator's specific 'truth' over other sources.
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as a long time amd apu fanatic i got very excited to finally get some performance numbers for amd's new ryzen 6000 ibus featuring rdna 2 gpus and a slide shown by amd at ces showed shockingly good improvements over ryzen 5000 too good for my taste as the over 100 performance improvement is nearly impossible without any kind of caching like an infinity cache let's say so immediately i've wondered if amd pulled an intel on us and if we look at the footnotes exactly that happened amd chose to compare the absolute best ryzen 6000 config with the absolute worst possible ryzen 5000 config to get that for marketing seemingly seemingly important factor 2 improvement in performance for one thing they have chosen ddr4 3200 instead of the also very common lpddr4 4266 and as you know ram bandwidth affects the igpu performance greatly even worse though is the fact that amd chose to run the 5800u at 15 watts instead of 28 watts or the more common 22 to 25 watts at 28 watts the soc can clog the gpu at max speed nearly all the time even with a decent cpu load at 15 watts that's impossible to show the effect of those kind of deceiving configuration choices i will show you some tests first the more forgive forgivable deception ram speed here we have shadow of the tomb raider with a 3200 and 4266. config on vega 8 at 2 gigahertz the bandwidth limit for the gpu is around ddr4 3600 so there would have been a light overkill but still the difference is 10 so around 10 lost for choosing the worst possible ram now we come to the tdp for cyberpunk amd claimed an over 100 improvement over ryzen 5800u well this would be clearly not true if amd had done an apples to apple's comparison and let the ryzen 7 5800u also run at 2028 watts here we can see that the last gen chip is losing up to 25 percent at 15 watts compared to 25 watts and it would be even worse at 28 watts add another 10 for the slo ram and we are at around 30 to 40 performance loss compared to an apples to apples configuration [Music] another title amd is claiming a hundred percent gain was cs go here leaving the ram speed out of the picture we get a 25 performance loss for 15 watts compared to 25 watts again it would be worse compared to a 28 watts config so the 2x factor factor 2x or 100 gain compared to last vega is in reality a 1.5 x respectively 50 gain which is still insanely impressive so i don't know why amd's marketing needed to pull this off amd did not have to do that at all so we got 50 performance gain for a 50 more shaders basically and that's great but for those who expected more i'm sorry guys that's not it you like my work feel free to subscribe if you have any questions post a comment see you soon
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Ryzen 7 6800U vs Ryzen 7 5800U AMD Radeon 680M vs Vega 8 iGPU Gaming Performance Analysis 0:00 - intro/AMD CES slide 0:38 - footnotes 1:41 - DDR4-3200 vs DDR4-4266 2:29 - 15W vs 25W: Cyberpunk 2077 (1080p low) 3:03 - 15W vs 25W: CS:GO (1080p low) If we look at the footnotes of AMD's Ryzen 6000 benchmark slide, we can see that sadly they did not compare apples to apples and if you got with AMD's number you most likes will be disappointed. #AMD #AMDRyzen #CSGO #Radeon Mobile Gaming iGPU APU TDP Laptop Counter-Strike: Global Offensive Notebook AMD Ryzen™ 7 Mobile Processors with Radeon™ Graphics